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New Mac Pro? I’m waiting patiently
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[Shane Ross] “Nope”
So why haven’t they killed it?
It’s not in Apple’s best interest to sell old tech, being a technology company….
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[Frank Gothmann] “to the point where I am seriously considering ditching my private Macbook Pro for an HP Laptop.”
That’s awesome for you, Frank. Glad you’re finding life after Apple.
Some people still prefer OSX. I do. We have two machines running windows. OSX is easier (for me) to support and maintain.
We have a networked system that needs uptime and easy disaster recovery becuase sh*t happens and no one is perfect.
We rely on the Internet to move our business forward and maintain client communication. There’s no way that any of our machines can’t be connected.
I’m glad that windows is working for you, but Apple’s iPad marketing has no impact on our decision to run OSX. Although, windows blue screens are not as pretty.
I hope Apple licenses OSX to a desktop manufacturer, but unfortunately I just don’t see them giving up that much control.
Jeremy
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[Shane Ross] “Think the MacPro is overpriced. Look at the HP Z800, that is the one rated for Avid MC, Scratch… It starts at $3000. With a pathetic amount of RAM, and ho hum graphics card.”
True, but I would add the following:
a) You know HP is continuing to invest in the workstation market
b) You have choice that you can’t really get in a Mac Pro (GPU, drive configuration, peripherals)
c) Perhaps most interesting to me is (my opinion) that the Z800 is a better Mac from a case design POV than the Mac. Case design, entry into the system, accessibility, layout are all superior to MacPro which was designed in 2004.
d) Once a system is properly configured, I imagine your prices are the same or close to it.In the end, you’re paying for the HP name, design, etc. just like you are for a MacPro. Can you build a screamin’ PC for a fraction of the cost of an HP – absolutely. At least you have the option in PC land, your option on the Mac is to buy an iMac.
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[Dennis Radeke] “In the end, you’re paying for the HP name, design, etc. just like you are for a MacPro. Can you build a screamin’ PC for a fraction of the cost of an HP – absolutely. At least you have the option in PC land, your option on the Mac is to buy an iMac.
“This is all nothing new, that is the way it has been for the last few years, yet still people chose Macs over PC’s.
Steve Connor
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Some people still prefer OSX. I do. We have two machines running windows. OSX is easier (for me) to support and maintain. “
And that’s just fine. I was just referring to the statement above that the idea of moving to windows is “terrifying”. I am certain you wouldn’t see it that way if push comes to shove. Windows is not going to burn your house down or eat your children, its an evolved OS just like X or any Linux flavor. With certain advantages, disadvantages, good interface design and bad, bugs and whatnot. There isn’t that much difference in terms of quality between OSes anymore, just in approach and concepts maybe. And if you or anybody else makes whatever decision based on that plus your professional requirements rather than “fear” I won’t argue for a second.
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Could I figure out Windows? No question.
But, fear is a hell of a motivator. Fight or flight.
I can understand if people don’t want to switch. It would double my already busy workload. I would not look forward to it.
What I do like about Macs is that you can run both OSes on the same machine. Sure, not in an ideal windows config, but you can’t do that on an HP. 😉
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “What I do like about Macs is that you can run both OSes on the same machine. Sure, not in an ideal windows config, but you can’t do that on an HP. ;)”
True, although you could turn it into a hackintosh. Not ideal, but can be done. In any case, the roadblocks aren’t exactly HP’s fault, no?
“Fight or flight”… I don’t think it has to be any of those two. That’s exactly my point.I just wonder if people would feel equally frightened at the prospect of a switch to a Linux based OS.
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[Frank Gothmann] “True, although you could turn it into a hackintosh. Not ideal, but can be done”
Have you tried this? This would be the worst situation of them all. At least Bootcamp is a supported venture.
[Frank Gothmann] “I just wonder if people would feel equally frightened at the prospect of a switch to a Linux based OS.”
Linux doesn’t have the history/baggage of Windows or MacOS. I would think that people would be more intrigued than “frightened” especially when it’s such a “DIY” culture. Plus, none of the most ubiquitous NLEs run on Linux.
I’m sure if certain companies saw a demand, they’d do it, but is there a demand?
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[Shawn Marshall] I don’t like that Win 7 has to download updates practically every week.
This is why I find people who harp on Windows (especially version 7), to be ridiculously forgetful when it comes to using OSX. Do you know how often the Software Update box pops up on my OSX station? Quite a bit, and it’s far more intrusive than Windows Update.
I also have to reboot both my OSX and Windows machines on roughly the same time basis for slowdowns/instability/ect. Neither is immune.
Both OSX and Windows 7 are equally solid choices when it comes to a desktop OS. OSX has some stuff I love that I wish Windows would duplicate, and there are things on Windows that I wish OSX had (one example: the detailed window you get when overwriting a file on Windows is super helpful, while OSX gives you nothing).
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[Frank Gothmann] “After a few month of working in win7 I honestly don’t want to go back to OSX. I find it as stable (if not more in mixed network environments), more flexible and overall faster… to the point where I am seriously considering ditching my private Macbook Pro for an HP Laptop.”
From the point of view of a wintel person who bought his first mac 7 years ago for FCP studio I will give a few reasons why I’m hoping Apple comes out with an upgrade (and soon.)
Networking is much. much easier in OSX. I have a mixed network of Macs and PCs and I’m forever having network problems on the PC side. Everything about setting up and maintaining a network seems easier in OSX. You can take into consideration that I’m a network moron, for anything complex I have to get outside help.
ProRes. Many of my deliverable are in ProRes and there’s no good way to encode it on a PC that I’m aware of. I’m hoping, hard, that either someone comes out with a good, reliable PC ProRes encoder or that the market opens up to other deliverables (DNxHD ??) but for the moment I’m shackled to OSX.
On another note, after getting my first Mac Pro I switched my home computer to a Mac Mini. After a few years I switched back to a PC notebook, basically because of the better software available. If you’ve ever used Quicken, the difference between the Mac version and the Windows version alone would make the switch back to Windows worth it. As is often the case with Apple products OSX is simpler to use, but the price of simplicity is that it’s often much more limited in scope. So is it simple or simple minded? Are PCs complex or over complicated?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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