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New Mac Pro
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Just because someone says you should jump, doesn’t mean you should throw yourself off of the Sears Tower as fun as that feeling of flying might be.”
As far as I know the hack that allows PPro to work with unsupported OpenCL cards will allow it to utilize the double 5870s.
You stated that Apple doesn’t support multiple GPUs, not that FCP couldn’t utilize them. Their are 2 x 16 lane slots in the current MacPro. If Apple comes out with a refresh that doesn’t have either multiple 16 lane slots or a built in GPU plus 1 additional 16 lane slot then that will be a clear step backward, not just business as usual.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “I’m the last person alive who wants the ipod strictly for music and with an SSD”
Me too. Just music, lots of it and without using a mechanical, temp sensitive HDD.
I had a Nano in my car, which I dropped on my lawn so I could water it.
I replaced it with a Touch, so I could get more storage. The other day the Touch (in my car’s glove box) gave me an overheat warning. Which I’d never seen, even on the Nano. It stayed in the too hot state for a long time. I wonder why the Nano never had an issue, but the Touch did. Is it really just the larger display? Or did the Nano not have a temp sensor and just played?
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[Kevin Patrick] “Me too. Just music, lots of it and without using a mechanical, temp sensitive HDD. “
How about a 64 gig SSD Classic IPod at a reasonable price. It’s not just Apple, nobody makes anything like this for MP3 either.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “As far as I know the hack that allows PPro to work with unsupported OpenCL cards will allow it to utilize the double 5870s.”
Yeah, not really.
I don’t have double, but I have single, and there’s zero acceleration.
[Herb Sevush] “You stated that Apple doesn’t support multiple GPUs, not that FCP couldn’t utilize them. Their are 2 x 16 lane slots in the current MacPro.”
As far as I know, there’s nothing that I know of video wise that can utilize multiple AMD cards. Dual AMD GPUs gets you nothing in FCS3, FCPX, or CS6 currently. Can I stick two cards in there? Surely, but is it useful? No. Maybe to Aerospace and Medical, but me the video pleeb gets no love.
If you have a more modern MacPro, this means that if you have two 16x cards in there, you are left with two 4x slots. Hmm, maybe the new “MacPro” will have two 16x slots and two thunderbolt ports (they are 4x after all).
Older MacPros had one 16x slot, two 4x and a 1x, or really any combo of 25x across 4 slots with the max of 3 8x slots.
[Herb Sevush] “If Apple comes out with a refresh that doesn’t have either multiple 16 lane slots or a built in GPU plus 1 additional 16 lane slot then that will be a clear step backward, not just business as usual.”
Oh, you mean like removing a fw800 port or an express/34 card, and perhaps maybe adding a thunderbolt port to compensate? Or perhaps adding a sensor to an iMac that makes it much harder to add a second hard drive. Perhaps when everyone is doubling their PCIe capability and revving up for v3.0, Apple is releasing 4x v2 to the rest of their line.
We will see what they release, and my wager is that it’s not going to compete with a z820 feature for feature. It’s not Apple’s game, but I don’t want to start all this all again. It’s all in the other thread I linked to.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Hmm, maybe the new “MacPro” will have two 16x slots and two thunderbolt ports (they are 4x after all).”
That’s all I’m asking for. I’m not expecting them to compete with HP on card slots. But if they come out with GPU built into the motherboard and a bunch of Tbolt ports, then it’s not a workstation, it’s MacProX.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Walter Soyka] “This is insane.
What other company can put its customers on a roller coaster ride like this and still inspire such loyalty?
“Yes, it is. If you’d asked me last Fall about buying a Mac Pro on release, the answer would have been yes. Now, I don’t know. I certainly have a lot invested in the OS X platform, but I am tired of the roller coaster, and the only reason I came to the platform in the first place was FCP. Apple has always been a bit of a carney side show from my perspective, and now, since FCP X is only of marginal interest to me, I find the idea of reincorporating Windows an enticing one. Still, cross-platform work, though far easier now than it was a decade ago, has drawbacks. Avid, Adobe and Boris are making it at least possible to consider, however. Did you know that you can switch your Continuum License to Windows at no cost? I was quit relieved to find that out.
So, I’m interested in what might be released next week, and I might be in the market for it, depending on what it offers, but my allegiance to the Mac line of computers was EOLed not long after FCS3.
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I have a Windows 7 Phone and an iPad and I prefer the UI on the Windows Phone 7. It’s smooth, slick, visually stunning and the calendar doesn’t have any strange leather graphics.
Windows has come a long way and that’s not something I ever figured would happen, back in the day when I had a clamshell Macbook running OS9.
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[Herb Sevush] “That’s all I’m asking for. I’m not expecting them to compete with HP on card slots. But if they come out with GPU built into the motherboard and a bunch of Tbolt ports, then it’s not a workstation, it’s MacProX.
“As we know that the prices are more or less the same as the existing models I’m not expecting a MacProX!
Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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[Herb Sevush] “How about a 64 gig SSD Classic IPod at a reasonable price”
That should easily fit in the Nano, not sure I need the Classic form factor. I wonder if Apple’s concerned people would buy more Nanos if they were higher capacity. Less long term revenue from a Nano (which doesn’t run apps) as opposed to a Touch.
But, since I have an iPhone (or an Android for that matter), I don’t need a Touch. I want a high capacity Nano.
Perhaps if we both sent Apple some feedback …
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One possible explanation for the long period between upgrades is that the chips Apple wanted to use in their next iteration were originally due early last fall but were delayed by Intel until very recently. If not for that delay I think you would have seen new Mac Pros no later than last October. I may be wrong but that’s my guess.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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