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  • Lee Schneider

    February 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Juan, are you editing in Final Cut? If so, is it running well with the DNxHD/QuickTime?

  • Juan Salvo

    February 17, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    I’m not. Don’t like using DNxHD in FCP. It’s handy for Premiere and also to trancode to ProRes for FCP. And of course works great in Avid, easy link to ama and consolidate.

    EDIT: Spoke too soon on the premiere. It’s not accepting the HyperDeck QT DNxHD files.

  • David Chai

    February 18, 2012 at 6:08 am

    Please Add ProRes! Please add ProRes! As much as I respect Avid, I’m a final Cut guy…

    David…

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  • Andreas Wojtaschek

    February 18, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Guys,

    if you are honest you must accept that FCP and even ProRes is dead. Apple will not alter FCP X to a professional app. It will stay on a level that is next to Magix Movie Maker. ProRes is related to FCP 7 and in my opinion not a futureproof format anymore, as the interest of Apple in acquirering professional users has vanished.

    ProRes is a one way road:
    You can use it only on Mac.
    There is no real support from Apple anymore.
    The majority of editing houses switch to other NLEs and to DNxHD or even XDCam as mastering codec.
    Even the most hardware vendors are using DNxHD now in their products.
    Do you still trust a company that kills it’s professional apps from one day to another? (FCP, Shake, FCP Server)
    There are rumours that Apple will discontinue the Mac Pro line.

    Why should Blackmagic add a codec that will not be relevant anymore in 2 or 4 years?
    And in addition to that you could use the Quicktime DNxHD files in FCP without any problem! What is the advantage of using Prores on FCP if you can easily use the QT DNxHD files?

    I would understand if Blackmagic would add the Cineform codec. That would be an improvement. But ProRes is only [cynicism on] for the nostalgic guys that can’t accept that Apple doesn’t care for them anymore but wants to sell IPad apps. [cynicism off]

    I was an FCP editor for years but I had to move on. In our world it becomes more important to colaborate and to be compatible with all kinds of OS and NLE. To be tied to only one platform is really old thinking. And remember: Not the machine or the NLE is telling the story – the editor does, no matter what brand his NLE software is.

    Regards

    Andreas

    Entertainment Producer IHK
    mindandvision

  • Mike Squires

    February 18, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Andreas,

    I agree with you about ProRes, it really looks like it’s the end of the line for it.

    But I’m hearing that even the Quicktime wrapped files the new software is outputting isn’t compatible with Premiere Pro, to me, that’s a major problem.

    EDIT:
    Hmm, after reading on the Adobe Forums, it seems the new Quicktime wrapped files do import fine in CS5.5.

  • Lee Schneider

    February 18, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Andreas,

    I’m with you on this. I’m still on FCP 7, and when it comes to the point where I need to make a change, I’m going to seriously look at all platforms. The good thing is that 7 is going to be just fine for awhile, so I’ll be able to watch how Apple evolves over the next year, but it definitely seems like they are moving into a completely consumer based i pad market. Sad.

    I have NO problem moving to the DNxHD/Quicktime files, but many people have said it doesn’t play well with FCP. I’d love to get ahold of a clip and play around with it.

    Lee

  • Lee Schneider

    February 18, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    And David. I received an email back from BlackMagic tech support that said they had no plans to ad ProRes in the near future, but it is a highly requested upgrade.

    Lee

  • Lee Schneider

    February 18, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Juan, or anyone who’s updated to 2.5. Would you be willing to upload a short (15 seconds or so) DNxHD QuickTime clip to me so I can toss it into FCP, add some filters, etc and see how it all works out? My direct email is leevideo1@yahoo.com if someone will do that. I have a yousendit.com account that you can use to send it.

    Thanks!

    Lee

  • Mike Squires

    February 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    I would actually like the same, and I have a Dropbox account if necessary.

  • Dan Nethery

    February 18, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    The files seem to work okay in FCP7….. Here is a link to download a short clip. Hope this helps!

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/GA-Documents/dans/Capture0013.mov.zip

    dan.

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