Need ideas for speeding up SVP 12 renders on brand new Dell T7500

[Stephen Crye]

Thanks John;

I really appreciate your thoughtful and detailed reply. Based on that, when I have that test K4000, I think I will go to the trouble of swapping out the 2000 and seeing how the K4000 does.

You will be getting a Mac Pro? Will you dual-boot to run Vegas in Windows, or are you giving up on Vegas? Say it isn’t so!

One more specific question – on the nVidia site, they have several different drivers for the Quadro – Performance, some others. Any recommendations?

Finally, have a look at my new thread on SVP12 slower than SVP11. Would love your thoughts on that puzzler.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[John Rofrano]

[Stephen Crye] “You will be getting a Mac Pro? Will you dual-boot to run Vegas in Windows, or are you giving up on Vegas? Say it isn’t so!”

Yes, I plan to use Bootcamp to continue to use Vegas Pro. I also use VMware Fusion to run Vegas on the Mac desktop:

I’m also hoping that Sony is working on a Mac version of Vegas Pro like they did for Sound Forge. Then I won’t need to dual boot at all. I have no plans of not using Vegas Pro. I’ve been learning FCP X and while it has some really nice features, it can’t even begin to compare with the audio capabilities of Vegas that I reply on for my work.

[Stephen Crye] “One more specific question – on the nVidia site, they have several different drivers for the Quadro – Performance, some others. Any recommendations?”

The Quadro ODE Graphics Driver and the Performance Driver are the same file. I guess at one time they were different but now it doesn’t matter which one you download, you get the same thing. I always just download the Quadro ODE Graphics Driver.

[Stephen Crye] “Finally, have a look at my new thread on SVP12 slower than SVP11. Would love your thoughts on that puzzler.”

Will do.

~jr

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[Stephen Crye]

Hi John,

That screen shot looks really cool. I heard that the new Mac Pro (is it out yet) will be very fast.

Regarding the Quadro driver differences, I clicked on the little Help link on the driver download page and saw this:

* Quadro Graphics Driver – Official release driver for Quadro and ISV certification support to all ISVs, OEMs and End Users.

* Quadro Performance Driver – The driver released ahead of “Quadro Graphics Driver” from each major release to support the need of Press performance evaluation on Quadro.

* Quadro Partner Certified Driver – All drivers certified by our ISVs partners.

So I guess if I am feeling frisky I’ll try the Performance Driver.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[John Rofrano]

[Stephen Crye] “I heard that the new Mac Pro (is it out yet) will be very fast.”

I’ve read reports of FCP X handling 16 streams of 4K with it! With Dual GPU’s it should be a killer.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Stephen Crye]

So John, which config are you thinking of? The fully loaded ~ $9K config?

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[John Rofrano]

[Stephen Crye] “The fully loaded ~ $9K config?”

lol… I wish! I’m leaning toward the 8 core but I haven’t decided yet.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Thayalan Paramasawam]

Hi Sir,

After i saw this forum regarding graphic card,i am confused to buy graphic card.So pls adivice me…….which is best card for SVP 12.

Thank You
Thayalan Paramasawam

[Stephen Crye]

[Thayalan Paramasawam] “which is best card for SVP 12.”

Heh – Well, that is the big question and there is no simple answer.

The threads below (and many, many others on CCow) also discusses it. Have a look at my last post – apparently the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti is not the one to get … at east for render speed, pretty good for preview.

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/973364

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/973445

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Dave Haynie]

[John Rofrano] “I’ve read reports of FCP X handling 16 streams of 4K with it! With Dual GPU’s it should be a killer.”

While that’s probably true, let’s see where the dust settles on 4K. Right now, your HDD is the gating factor, since (well, at least until CES earlier this month) most 4K camera were using very light compression. Red encodes in R3D (already well supported in Vegas), some are using CinemaDNG, which is a similar idea (interframe “RAW” CODEC).

But that’s going to change fast. Sony put out a pro-priced camera at CES, the FDR-AX1, that’s recording in AVC. And a [pro|con]-sumer model, the FDR-AX100, also recording in AVC (also pretty interesting because it’s a consumer-ish camcorder sporting a single 1″ sensor — moving toward DSLR tech there a little). So whatever your PC can handle with regular camcorder AVCHD, you can handle about 1/4 as many of these streams. And some companies are looking at using a next-generation CODEC like HEVC, which is going to make that even worse.

On the plus side, the latest I’ve seen out of Vegas suggests that IF Apple really does finally have good GPU acceleration in FCX and can use both GPUs, the Mac Pro may be about where you’d want to be for a 4K workflow.

I noticed awhile ago that HD in AVC had fallen to a level of annoyance where I didn’t really notice that it wasn’t MPEG-2 or Cineform or some lesser CODEC. That alone clearly indicates it’s time for something more evil to slow us all down. Of course, any machine that gives you that HD/AVC ease of editing will be just dandy for the simpler forms of 4K… though you’ll need a very new (and as we’ve seen, not well/fully supported by today’s Vegas) graphics card to have actual 4K modes to drive actual 4K monitors. Not too worried about it, particularly given the price of 4K monitors right now and how new my 2.6K monitors are. But it is good to be aware of what’s coming. It’s also pretty clear to me that much of this comes from the GPU… that’s a critical part of the video editing PC formula, going forward.

-Dave

[Thayalan Paramasawam]

Hi Sir,
At moment i use asus gtx 650,its really disappointed me because when ever i bring down the AVCHD file to time line,its crash and not responding so i need to off the gpu acceleration.After the gpu acc…off its working very well.

I am AMD user,my motherboard support gtx cards and sli mode.

Working Station Spec
Pro…FX 8350
Ram…16gb
Win pro 64bit