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My Life in FCP
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[David Lawrence] ” (a process made more difficult because of the arbitrary removal of the dedicated source viewer)”
Got ya. Yeah, I see what you are saying now. I guess I missed the point about not having a viewer and canvas. The audition feature sort of accounts for this, but no one cares.
The skimmer can also simulate a bit of this as would a keystroke toggling from timeline to browser.
In my opinion the audition feature is pretty cool and a very easy way ro stack options without rebuilding your timeline, but whatever.
I don’t think that FCPx shuts down your thinking which seems to be what people are saying/alluding to.
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I work as a one-man-band; making mostly 10/15 minutes documentary-like videos (many ITWs in minorities languages).
When I go to the field, I have half of the video on my head.
I come back home, two or three weeks later, with 20 or 30 hours footage.I organice, preview, pre-select, edit and script, all at once, directly in FC. Some times I even write a draft text as subtitles directly on the time-line.
The whole movie is just one process, and the edting process start even before going to the field.
But the most of my editing is done whyle previewing.
Whyle I watch a couple of times (normally I have a first preview on the field) my 20 or 30 hours rushes, they gets reduced to 1/10, and all the “best shots” are selcted and safe on few simple sequences.
With those sequences and my head, I don´t need any metadata.
I can´t work the way FCPX proposes.
No sense for me.
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[Rafael Amador] “I can´t work the way FCPX proposes.”
A compound clip will set you straight. Don’t even need a timeline to make them. They can easily be scrubbed in the viewer/event. No metadata needed unless you want it. They can be range selected and added to timeline. Way more efficient than copying and pasting from other sequences.
FCPx does not force you to use metadata. It doesn’t even force keywords. You can make folders just like bins, no keywords/collections necessary
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I knee jerked and hated X… I gave it one star. I then sucked it up and proceeded to cut a 5 min vignette of a band members take on music. I started to like X… Make no mistake this isn’t FCP at all… Remember I’m a decade long FCP user. I got to the middle of the project and love hate several things. Conclussion, I am not going to be using X anytime soon, that is for sure.
I gave it a fair shot and feel I understand the MTimeline and UI very well in two weeks. I don’t like basic editing functions. I don’t need the filmstrip or need MT to be honest. A thumbnail is more than enough. The real time 32 bit float color is what sucked me in… But the program is very unstable and it has been well documented. It’s def unusable for anything long form. Projects and events are lame. Tabs for sequences are not improved with projects. I still give it one star… This release after 2 years is a fail!
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Compound clips sound promising.
Like Rafael, I also work by using sequences as selects reels. This is how I orangise all my media, and all my thoughts for that matter.
So if I was to create compound clips to work like a selects reel, am I able within that compound clip to edit clips, (ie top and tail them, cut out the middle when the cameraman forgets to switch off the camera) and then reorder the clips (say establishers first, interview at the end), and highlight clips I think are more promising (in 7 I do this visually by lifting them to V2). Can I see the duration of clips within the compound clip?
With a sequence, I can visually see all this information at a glance, just by looking at the timeline.
How is a compound clip graphically displayed in FCP-X?
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[Rob Tinworth] “How is a compound clip graphically displayed in FCP-X?”
Exactly the same as a regular clip. Good luck picking them out from all the rest in a complex project.
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Fantastic wee video covering your FCP relationship!
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It’s funny – a relationship is exactly how it feels. Like 8 years ago I left Avid for a younger NLE. And now that NLE has left me for a new market with bigger tits (and a fatter wallet). And I’m crawling back to Avid begging for forgiveness.
What’s been great is the number of people from Avid or who work with Avid who have extended offers to help me get my head around MC or talk through setup.
I really get the sense this is not the Avid I remember, the one that offered the discount upgrade from ABVB to Merdien, and then, the very next week, launched Adrenaline.
I’m still not giving up on FCP7. It still works, and in the words of my favourite comment on the subject: “I’m going to stay with 7 until they pry my cold, dead fingers from the keyboard.”
But it was exciting to read about Avid’s MC6. BMD support would solve the issue with having Avid+Resolve sitting on the same system. Now if they can just get that timeline sorted out…
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[Rob Tinworth] “Like Rafael, I also work by using sequences as selects reels. This is how I orangise all my media, and all my thoughts for that matter.”
Compound clips can be like timelines, or nests really, or they can act just like a clip. So you don’t HAVE to put clips in a timeline to organize. (Sidenote: Even if you wanted to do this, you’d open a new “project” and put clips in there, then simply switch from project to project (or timeline to timeline if FCP7 speak). Yes, they aren’t tabbed, but there’s an interface that isn’t so bad. It’s more like a web browser, back and forth. Or you copy what want from one timeline, then hit command-0 to switch to Project library, then select your destination timeline.)
In the browser, you get your clips that you’d like to group together and hit command G to make a compound clip.
You can then name it whatever you want.
In the browser the compound clip has a little icon on it that signifies a compound clip that is viewable either in list view or thumbnail view. From there, you can simply “Open in timeline” (or double click) and the compound clip will open in a timeline interface which you can then edit, replace, trim, reorder, whatever. You then copy and paste from the compound to your timeline, or use it however you want to use it. It’s scrubbable in the viewer, it’s scrubbable in “open in timeline”. To see the duration of any given clip, hit control-d from the timeline. You can’t see durations skimming a compound clip in the browser, but you couldn’t scrub a timeline form the browser in FCP7 anyway. IN FCPx, you can browse the compound clip in the viewer.
If you have a bunch of different timeline selects, you can make a bunch of compound clips and name them something like “WhateverYouWant_Compound” after creating them. You can then make a smart collection to include the word “Compound” and then when you click on that smart collection, you will have all of your compound clips (or in the case of this analogy, all of your selects). Form there, you can scrub and range select, or “open in timeline” and copy paste to your main “project”, or whatever. It’s quite flexible. If all of your clips are in the browser, you can even skim all of them from beginning to end so you won’t be locked to one “timeline”.
Is it different than FCP7? Yes. Does it work better or worse? You would have to try it, but I find it better. I find the smart and keyword collections to be ultra useful, even if you edit from select sequences which is how I usually work too, although FCPx is probably going to change that a bit if it’s allowed to grow up and become a broadcast ready NLE. Keyword selections will become the select sequences to some degree. Yes, it is a bit different, but really it’s the same idea. I wouldn’t quite knock it until you try it. If you are already an organized editor, then FCPx will do nothing but help you as it makes it so easy. I’m not joking.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If you are already an organized editor, then FCPx will do nothing but help you as it makes it so easy.”
As long as you organize the way Apple allows you to organize.
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