my heart is sinking reading this

[Paul Nordin]

Gary,

I’m having a hard time understanding your perspective. I admire your leadership of this forum and think your articles and tutorials rock. However, the holes in this release are horrendous for most of the serious post community.

If they needed more time to implement proper XML, EDL, vFX framework, third party hardware, etc. Why didn’t they take it? Doing it the way they have has completely undermined my faith that their intentions for this product have anything to do with my version of Pro.

Perhaps you know more than I from your relationship with Apple. It would be really cool for Apple to let even a glimmer of their roadmap out of the bag. By their not doing so, in my mind they are placing FCP (with emphasis on PRO) in the same category as Color, Shake, etc. In other words, in Apple’s minds we had a nice ride while it lasted, and the future is now with YouTube and iPads, becasue that’s what they implemented first.

How is it possible to think otherwise?

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[Craig Seeman]

[Paul Nordin] “If they needed more time to implement proper XML, EDL, vFX framework, third party hardware, etc. Why didn’t they take it?”

On the other hand, if they did nothing or did nothing but “promise” a lot of people would have also moved on.

Given what I’m reading, we kinds getting FCPX Training Edition. For $299 and the likelihood they’ll be adding key features, I’m OK with that if it means I have to use FCP7 for a few more months.

I least I can see, feel, play in the nursery until the thing grows up and I’ll be able to hit the ground running at that point.

[Gary Adcock]

[Paul Nordin] “I’m having a hard time understanding your perspective. I admire your leadership of this forum and think your articles and tutorials rock. However, the holes in this release are horrendous for most of the serious post community.
“

I thought was really clear about the perspective Paul, and my “knee jerk reaction” to my first 24hrs with the App.

This is not in any way shape or form and upgrade to an exsiting product, so the reviews and commentary are treated with that in mind and in that manner – everyone here respects what I say because I try to be as honest about stuff as I can be.

I called out all the things it did not do for me and my workflows, I have said it was not a release for what I consider to be a professional editor. That being said, it does what apple says it supposed to do.

This is without a doubt an absolutely different application than any thing that has come before- I regret that apple did not call it something else.

I am going to keep my FCP 7 on my machines, but I am not going to set idlly by and not keep testing and looking at what is in store for FCPX.

I already have Avid and PPro on my systems, doesn’t mean I am going stop using them either.

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, IL

https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

[Paul Nordin]

Fair enough Gary. I didn’t mean it as a personal attack.

I’ve heard a theory that Apple will not write ANY I/O or third party support in FCPx. Rather leave 100% of that to vendors. Perhaps that’s good in the long run. But I’m still at a loss for how Apple could create a NEW – from the ground up – NLE, that does not even have built in EDL for legacy purposes. Seems very arrogant. But, that’s just me anthropomorphizing their marketing strategy for the product.

I look forward to using this when basic interface capabilities are available.

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[Kevin Monahan]

Creative Suite runs great on a PC too! Just sayin…

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[Cam Khoury]

Gary, first I would like to thank you for your review of FCP X. It is vital that we move forward and embrace innovation no matter where it comes from and see FCP X in a positive light. I would like to take a moment and question your assertion that FCP X is not an upgrade given that FCS3 was removed from Apple’s inventory list on the exact same day as FCP X’s release. Along with the continuation of the venerable Final Cut name, something that branding gurus (Apple is indeed the king of branding) would frown on if it was in fact a different product, it seems to be a new version of the same product. I would also like to point out that, according to your statement that FCP X is not for the expert editor along with the discontinuation of FCS3, Apple no longer sells professional edit software. I have yet to try FCP X (you can be certain that I will) but this is a very disappointing development.

Cam Khoury
One Eyed Dog, LTD
oededit.com
248-613-8966

[Gary Adcock]

[cam khoury] “I would like to take a moment and question your assertion that FCP X is not an upgrade given that FCS3 was removed from Apple’s inventory list on the exact same day as FCP X’s release.”

Cam.

I did not now that Apple was going to EOL (end of line) the previous version of FCS, yes that does change somethings but not alot, there are Boxes of software still available even if Apple is no longer selling them

I cannot call something an upgrade that does not require a previously installed (or serialised) version of the same app or is unable to open any previous project from any version.

If an upgrade is defined by allowing you to open a previous version of content from that App, then this is an upgrade from iMovie (project file FCPX can open) rather than FCP.

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, IL

https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

[Cam Khoury]

Gary, I would say that it represents either a major branding error or a huge deception by Apple.

It would be a major error since the brand is very well respected and using it for a completely new product would be unheard of in branding history. I suppose it would be like discontinuing a Mercedes C350 and branding a Smart Car with that same name and jacking up the price – completely illogical. It also expose them to the suggestion that Final Cut is no longer suitable for professional editors.

The deception is a little trickier but think it through. You take a brand name that has recognition and slip the baby brother (iMovie) of that product into the same slot as the big brother (FCP7). You can then get sales you would otherwise not have gotten had you introduced iMovie advanced, especially at $300. Use that revenue to support further development of the baby brother until it matures and equals or surpasses what big brother was.

There may be other explanations but I suppose we’re all speculating. Better to move forward.

[Paul Nordin]

Wow. That truly bites.

And with no upgrade of FCS3 projects to FCPX format, what happens in 1 year when a film comes back from the festival circuit and needs to be tweaked for distribution? If I have a hard drive crash, can I not reinstall FCP?

Scary

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Film * Audio
http://www.EMBstudios.com
Emeryville, CA
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