MultiCam – Multiple Clips for the Same Angle

[Jeremy Garchow]

Thanks, David.

I acutally spoke with the developer at NAB. Seems to be a great product and Andreas Kiel who wrote sequenceLiner also helped out the PluralEyes folks. It’s one big happy family.

The nice thing about sequenceLiner, especially if you have matching timecode, is that you don’t need the audio to sync. It’s very fast, very easy, and dare I say, free.

Jeremy

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “The nice thing about sequenceLiner, especially if you have matching timecode, is that you don’t need the audio to sync. It’s very fast, very easy, and dare I say, free”

Free is great!!! The thing about Pluraleyes is that it syncs audio and/or video that may have no timecode or other ways to sync whatsoever. So imagine, just for sake of extreme example, that you had five cameras and twenty sound people running around with handheld digital recorders, all grabbing stuff at will, all turning cameras and sound recorders on and off at random. As long as each camera had sound running, in theory, Pluraleyes would sync it all up automatically and create a multiclip.

BTW, I’m not at all certain what would happen to all the completely isolated/soloed audio that had nothing whatsoever to do with anything else on any camera or any other audio recorder, so there’s lot’s of stuff remaining to wrap my brain around. But, I’m sure you’ll acknowledge, in theory, the syncing by audio paradigm does have some very cool ramifications.

In summary, I think both Pluraleyes and SequenceLiner are way cool.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[David Roth Weiss] “The thing about Pluraleyes is that it syncs audio and/or video that may have no timecode or other ways to sync whatsoever. “

Oh I know, I get it. But that’s some processing time.

Jeremy

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I get it. But that’s some processing time. “

You would be surprised… Syncing in Pluraleyes is miraculously done in just seconds.

In any case, I’m going to create a very extreme example for a test. If it works I’ll post here as a mini-tutorial.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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[Herb Sevush]

DRW –

I just tried the demo of Pluraleyes and while it sunc my material perfectly it doesn’t overcome the FCP limitations as concerns multiple clips from the same camera on one timeline – what it does is split it up into separate multi-clips, albeit it does it automatically, which is handy.

It’s a nice little tool but most of my shoots are well engineered, with identical time code sent to each camera, so it doesn’t have much appeal to me.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Jeremy Garchow]

[David Roth Weiss] “You would be surprised… Syncing in Pluraleyes is miraculously done in just seconds. “

Then something must have changed as the demo I saw by the developer took some time, especially when the timeline is long.

Jeremy

[Bruce Sharpe]

Final Cut treats each clip as a separate angle. Annoying, but that’s the way it is. I work around it by creating reference movies from the tracks that PluralEyes syncs and making a multiclip from them (again with PluralEyes). See this blog post for details.

[Pravin Chottera]

So I started from scratch, and made sure that all the clips from CamC were on the same track, etc., and Pluraleyes still made a bunch of different angles instead of the four I am looking for.

It is also taking a long time for Pluraleyes to prepare the data and analyze it. I am working over a network, so that may slow it down a little, and each clip is pretty long (.5 hrs for each of the tape clips, and 1.5 hours for the two tapeless clips) but it takes more 45 minutes Pluraleyes to work through everything.

I’m using the trail version, just to see if it worked before I buy it, but I don’t think that should affect anything.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Pravin, please try sequenceLiner. You’d be done by now and it’s free.

https://www.spherico.com/filmtools/

Jeremy

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Pravin, please try sequenceLiner. You’d be done by now and it’s free. “

I’m going to give it a shot too…

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.