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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Multi-Format sequences in 6 = AOK

  • David Roth weiss

    May 26, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    [JeremyG] “someone is doing some simple math over @ Apple”

    Jeeze Jeremy, you’re a regular Alfred Einstein. I never said the math was hard to do, its just that I’d rather it be built into the software by the programmers.

    Needless to say, next time I need to balance my checkbook I’m calling you Jeremy.

    Now go install your FCS2 (after cloning of course) and have a great weekend tinkering.

    BTW, in case you’re wondering, Alfred Einstein was Albert’s fifth cousin.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • David Roth weiss

    May 26, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    [walter biscardi] “Does it remain clean after final render and lay-back to tape?”

    Good question Walter. I haven’t gotten that far in my testing yet and I’m moving on to have some fun in the new Motion right now. I’ll get back to that and further test once later in the day to give it a full QC.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Chris Poisson

    May 26, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Nate,

    The truly correct metnod is 2 off the top and 4 off the bottom BTW.

  • Taran Reese

    May 26, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Cutting off an odd number of fields, like 3, would shift your field order, wouldn’t it? My understanding is that you’re supposed to shave off an even number of fields (0/6, 2/4, 4/2, 6/0) to maintain the existing field order. This is what Compressor does last time I checked.

    Taran

  • Taran Reese

    May 26, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    Er, shave off lines that is, not fields…

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 26, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    Yeah, in this case , I think it’s a lot easier to just lop off the appropriate six pixels. FCP 5 does it now, they shouldn’t have changed that. I imagine, as Walter said, it’s probably going to get a little soft, but it it renders/outputs alright then what the hell. I don’t care which method is used. If you put a dv clip in a D1 timeline, does it get scaled up? That wouldn’t be good either.

    Alfred.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 26, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    You are absolutely correct.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 26, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    [JeremyG] “but it it renders/outputs alright then what the hell.”

    Hey Alfred,

    Its possible that the multi-format thingie is just a gimmick right now. It needs deeper testing for sure. On the other hand, maybe this version is just a beginning, and every conversion will ultimately be programmed for automation using the best possible methods. I’d have to think that would not be terribly difficult for the Apple programmers now that the underlying architecture is there.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Lee Berger

    May 26, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    If you have to eventually render anything that is not the same format as the sequence (green bar) then I guess the renders will be at the resolution and bit rate of the original clip applied to the sequence. So if you start with a DV25 clip and add an 8-bit uncompressed clip then your 8-bit uncompressed clip will be rendered DV25. If this is the way it works then it seems as if it’s more of an enhanced RT from version 5.x. This does not seem the same as mixed resolutions in Media 100 or Avid where each clip is played at its original resolution and there is no sequence setting.

    Lee Berger
    http://www.leebergermedia.com

  • David Roth weiss

    May 27, 2007 at 12:29 am

    [Lee Berger] “If you have to eventually render anything that is not the same format as the sequence (green bar) then I guess the renders will be at the resolution and bit rate of the original clip applied to the sequence…. This does not seem the same as mixed resolutions in Media 100 or Avid where each clip is played at its original resolution and there is no sequence setting”

    You’re correct Lee.

    BTW, in FCP 6 when openning a new sequence, you can choose an Easy Setup just like previous versions, or you can simply drop a clip onto the timeline, and if its different from the previous settings a message pops up asking if you want to change the seq. settings to match the new clip. If you answer yes, FCP actually closes the timeline briefly, then reopens it with the new settings. You can then check the Seq. Settings as normal and you’ll see that the renderer is also set to match the new clip. Any other media type on that timeline will be converted now and rendered at those settings.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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