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  • Gav Bott

    February 17, 2012 at 2:09 am

    “It might be a bit more work for third parties to stay current”

    This is where the fear kicks in for me – annual OS changes that effect thrid party aps, but that they can’t realistically charge for – as it’s only “making it actually work”.

    This is a weakness in the model of building the foundation ap, creating the space for the 3rd parties to make it sing – how do they survive and keep your vital aps up to date unless they can get an income stream in?

    The Brit in Brisbane
    The Pomme in Production – Brisbane Australia.

  • Michael Garber

    February 17, 2012 at 3:08 am

    So how long until we see FCPX using Airplay to an AppleTV instead of using an AJA, BM or Matrox alternative?

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company

  • Rafael Amador

    February 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    I agree on not updating is is not necessary or if there is not a substantial benefit in performance or functions.
    In the other hand what I do not like is the more and more dependence on Internet, the App Store and now The Cloud.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Andrew Richards

    February 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    [Michael Garber] “So how long until we see FCPX using Airplay to an AppleTV instead of using an AJA, BM or Matrox alternative?”

    I think you’ll see that as a monitoring option with the first FCPX update after Mountain Lion comes out. It won’t be a replacement for AJA, BMD, or Matrox I/O, but it would be pretty slick for client screenings. Carry a little AppleTV along with your MacBook and have a wireless HD screening system. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an updated AppleTV this year with an A5 chip and 1080p support either.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Andrew Richards

    February 17, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    [Gav Bott] “This is where the fear kicks in for me – annual OS changes that effect thrid party aps, but that they can’t realistically charge for – as it’s only “making it actually work”.

    This is a weakness in the model of building the foundation ap, creating the space for the 3rd parties to make it sing – how do they survive and keep your vital aps up to date unless they can get an income stream in?”

    I think the disruptiveness of major OS revs is being overstated. How often do you have your apps break when you update OS X? Unless they are older apps that depend on deprecated APIs, they almost always continue to work. Can it happen? Sure, but it isn’t like we have transitions to 64-bit or a new CPU architecture ahead of us now. That is all over with.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Andrew Richards

    February 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    At my last facility we bought maintenance for OS X and FCP, so we were essentially pre-buying the updates. In recent years, that program has been obsoleted by the App Store sales model and the much lower prices of major versions (at least with Apple stuff). For Adobe it used to be less compelling to buy every upgrade, but now Adobe is changing its pricing model as well to encourage customers to stay current (subscription pricing and higher upgrade prices for versions older than the most recent major rev).

    Best,
    Andy

  • John Pale

    February 17, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    They are dropping “Mac” from the OS X name because the OS will be licensed to run on computers other than Macs. This will be different than before, as last time they licensed the OS to cheap clones which bled Apple’s bottom line. This time they will license to select pro workstations…which they will stop making themselves, as they are not profitable enough for them. It’s really a no brainer. Steve Jobs would never allow it, but Tim Cook is much less dogmatic.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    [John Pale] “They are dropping “Mac” from the OS X name because the OS will be licensed to run on computers other than Macs. This will be different than before, as last time they licensed the OS to cheap clones which bled Apple’s bottom line. This time they will license to select pro workstations…which they will stop making themselves, as they are not profitable enough for them. It’s really a no brainer. Steve Jobs would never allow it, but Tim Cook is much less dogmatic.”

    Interesting idea, but do you think that will really happen?

  • Philip White

    February 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I’d just like to make this known – I’m currently playing with the ML development preview, all signs point to Final Cut Studio (7) working under the new OS so far…

    Here’s my confirmation –

    Notice that the Pro Apps updates direct me to the app store – the codecs and such seem to download through it now instead of the regular old ‘system update’ window.

    I realise this is predominantly a FCPX forum, however I thought it would ease the minds of any potential early adopters – so far at least, you’ll be able to keep FCS around for old client projects.

    Hope this helps in some way!

    I do plan to see how FCPX will perform on 10.8 – I’m sure it’ll do fine however.

    https://vimeo.com/philipwhite

  • John Pale

    February 18, 2012 at 12:34 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Interesting idea, but do you think that will really happen?”

    I do. I read last year several PC manufacturers expressed interest in licensing OSX but were rebuffed by Jobs. If Cook thinks he can make money, keep people using an Apple product, without having to build less profitable hardware, he might just go for it. I think they would only license it to a few high end workstations.

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