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Maxed out MacPro Pricing
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Maxed out only has one meaning. Everything in the machine to it’s highest spec.
And yes, under 10K. The price I was given by Apple was $9,700 Canadian. So based on cross border price adjustment, it will likely be US$9,500.
You’re basing your price on the D700 GPUs on the listed MSRP. I guarantee you that’s not what Apple’s paying, and it won’t be what you’re paying.
And as for the RAM, going from 16 to 32GB was $600, and to 64GB was $1200
The other thing to consider is that pricing on the $4,000 configuration isn’t additive. You don’t just add the cost of the new components ON TOP of that price, you also remove the cost of the components you’re replacing.
I don’t know why this info isn’t out in the world. I wasn’t the first person this guy called yesterday, and he had more to call after me. But I haven’t see any other sign or news about these BTO pricing options.
But these are the prices Apple gave me.
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What I’m saying about “additive pricing” is that when you upgrade from the D500 to the D700- the add-on price of the D700s = D700s minus D500s. It’s the difference, not one on top of the other.
It’s already pretty clear that Apple is getting great deals on these components-
If you look at the difference between the 3K and 4K configs, you’re paying $1,000 more for the 6-core CPU, plus a bump to the 2x D500s. MSRP of the 6-core CPU alone is $500, and estimates on the D500’s are in the $1,300 range. The only way that makes sense is if Apple’s price on the AMD components is WELL below MSRP.
As for the RAM, I’m just relaying the info. $1,200 for 64GB.
$1,000 for 1TB SSD.
And that’s what I said- WOW. And that what the Apple guy said he’d been hearing all morning.
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[Marcus Moore] “As for the RAM, I’m just relaying the info. $1,200 for 64GB.”
That’s a nice change from my current iMac, late 2009, when the 16 GB RAM option cost me $1,500 from Apple. I know, I know, buy cheaper from OWC, but there’s a sucker born every minute and I guess I am one of them. Looking forward to aggressive pricing from Apple to make a statement that they intend to be competitive and to make a dent in the market.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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I hear you. I was one of the insane maniacs to pay $1500 for the 750GB SSD in the last 17″MBP.
I know that the 32GB RAM upgrade on the current iMac is $600, or $400 from OWC.
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[Marcus Moore] “I hear you. I was one of the insane maniacs to pay $1500 for the 750GB SSD in the last 17″MBP.”
Must be something in the water we Canadians drink (naturally carbonated Kool-Aid?).
Buying their options can seem outrageous but necessary. The thing is Apple knows what you will realistically need to have a comfortably functioning working machine and 128 GB on a laptop or 256 GB on the Mac Pro for your system storage probably is anemic especially the way the OS treats your ‘home’ as holding all your data possessions by default. Easy to locate your media assets elsewhere but all the rest can add up quickly. I may consider keeping “all the rest” on the iMac, but at this point I think I may opt for a larger PCIe flash drive than the standard 256 GB. My iMac is the 3 TB option and I’ve lots of room to spare, but I see 500 GB as the easiest to migrate to on the Mac Pro as that is what I use now for my iMac boot partition. Looking at prices of quality 1 TB SATA SSDs, even $1,000 for Apple’s 1 TB PCie flash drive seems reasonable given how much faster than SATA it is.
“Happy New Year everyone” from Apple.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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That’s the one place I think I can save myself some $$$. The boot disc is going to be for OS and applications only. The extra thing right now for me is my iTunes library, which I’ll be pushing off to a dedicated disc. That being the case the 512GB option will do me just fine, and I can save $500.
The other place will be the 8-core vs 12-core processor. Unless I see a substantive performance increase application test from someone like Barefeats, That will knock the price down another $1500.
That 8-core, 500GB, 64GB RAM, and D700s machine was priced for me at $7,700. Which leave me a bit of room since I’ll have to buy some displays. Probably refurb Thunderbolt ACDs unless they offer something in a 4K flavour…
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Marcus Moore:
“That 8-core, 500GB, 64GB RAM, and D700s machine was priced for me at $7,700. Which leave me a bit of room since I’ll have to buy some displays. Probably refurb Thunderbolt ACDs unless they offer something in a 4K flavour…”I’m also looking at that configuration but wonder if 32 GB RAM will suffice. I know I exceed the 16 GB I have on the iMac but hope that 32 GB will suffice. Problem is my inexperience with 4K raw video that I hope to start shooting in 2014 for better or for worse. If my HD video maxes out the 16 GB machine, it may mean that realistically 64 GB is a requirement for good performance on 4K raw video. Of course only having 32 GB may only affect the raw debayer and final render steps and I could handle that.
I’m waiting for Peter Chamberlain (Blackmagic Design), product manager for DaVinci Resolve, to give his configuration guidance once the machines are released as he already knows better than anyone what is needed for 4K debayer and render. I’m sure by the end of January other software product managers will also chime in on what configuration is sufficient for their post products to work in 4K on the Mac Pro. Surely, they won’t all say, “max out the specs and you’ll be fine!”
I can remember Grace Hopper of the US Navy commenting on the memory requirements of PCs saying that you can do a lot with a 64 KB PC. And now we know some creative professionals lament that the new Mac Pro only supports 64 GB!
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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“That 8-core, 500GB, 64GB RAM, and D700s machine was priced for me at $7,700. Which leave me a bit of room since I’ll have to buy some displays. Probably refurb Thunderbolt ACDs unless they offer something in a 4K flavour…”
In that case Marcus I have good hopes that my 8-core+D500s+32G+500G might be priced a bit lower than that $6400 you mentioned.
My preferred specs are quite close to yours so If going from 64G to 32G is a $600,- reduction that means that having D700’s instead of D500’s equals a price increase of $700,-. I thought the price difference between a single D500 and D700 would already be quite large and because there are 2 gpu’s you’d have to double that difference. Off course apple got a sweet deal on the GPU’s as they mentioned in October but I kinda doubt the price difference would only be $700 for the d700’s so the pricetag of my setup might actually be in the $6000 range, give or take…
But… Until the release it remains guessing (at least for my preferred specs)…
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[Marcus Moore] “The other place will be the 8-core vs 12-core processor. Unless I see a substantive performance increase application test…”
Hi
Not a test, but this analysis of Intel’s spec sheet is informative over the turbo boost constraints on the 12-core versus 8-core and lower:
https://www.marco.org/2013/11/26/new-mac-pro-cpus -
Thank you, Andy.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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