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macbook air and fcpx- the new portable edit suite
Herb Sevush replied 14 years, 10 months ago 26 Members · 192 Replies
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Gary Huff
September 26, 2011 at 7:19 pm[Andy Neil][E]diting while waiting in line at the ATM or whatever might make my head explode.
Yeah, I don’t understand this whole fascination with “editing on the go” like an iPad or an iPhone would bring. I can already edit on the go on my laptop. Why do I need another level of being able to work?
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Jeremy Garchow
September 26, 2011 at 7:21 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “craig, for gods sake please, that makeee no sense. no sense at all. what you are suggesting is insane..”
Are you in the camp where simplicity and ease means “unprofessional”?
Just curious. Just asking. Not starting fights.
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Aindreas Gallagher
September 26, 2011 at 7:33 pmI tiptoe in response jeremy.
no, sure of course, although I find the concept of easy a tricky one – how would you make maya easy? or architectural programs? aren’t they complex insofar as they represent complex tasks? Isn’t editing a fairly complex task?
but that’s not the thing – the contention that generic aspects of apple software from iphoto, imovie, mail, the finder, can be bolted together as craig has it there, and create a coherent application for something as specific as editing is something I have a very hard time swallowing.
Events are not appropriate, in my opinion, to editing, they are a straight unadorned drop in from a totally different apple programme that serves different purposes for different users, and they just plopped it into this programme, and given the crazy work arounds and hacks, i think its fair to say that it doesn’t work very well. And that’s where we’re supposed to put and find our stuff.
trying to develop out from the single track imovie timeline, with bodges like secondary storylines hasn’t maybe worked too great either.It feels frankensteinish, to me at any rate, as an application. it feels misshapen. And there’s way too much chrome.
But I am a crotchety insane old man on that point. lots of people seem to like the look of it.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Walter Soyka
September 26, 2011 at 7:48 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Are you in the camp where simplicity and ease means “unprofessional”?”
I know you asked Aindreas, but I’d love to jump in here.
I think the phrasing here is a bit too reductive. I think a professional application should offer deep nuance, immense flexibility and total control. Simplicity and ease do not make an application unprofessional; the lack of these other qualities do.
The Holy Grail of professional applications combines all these things perfectly; in the real world, though, I think applications tend to tilt one way or another (and on the extremes, end up with “consumer” or “professional” labels).
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Lemur Hayop
September 26, 2011 at 7:50 pmEditing-on-the-go is appropriate or inappropriate, depending on person. For me, opens up a lot of ideas.
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Gerald Baria
September 26, 2011 at 8:25 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “how would you make maya easy? “
Umm..autodesk just did https://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/21/daily-ipad-app-123d-sculpt/
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Walter Soyka
September 26, 2011 at 8:26 pmWhat about the idea of portable editorial has anything to do with FCPX? We’ve been editing on laptops for a decade (first with Firewire connectivity, then with ExpressCard, soon with ThunderBolt). What compelling advantage will FCPX on an iPad have over FCPX on a laptop?
I’ve been trying to pass off the statement “Expectations rise at the same rate as capabilities” as Walter Soyka’s First Law of Computer Graphics [link], but this is really basic economics and I think it applies here, too.
Many here are pointing to increased portability as a big new production capability. I’ll counter that increased responsiveness and shorter deadlines will be the accompanying client expectations.
There’s another side to this coin, too, though. While tomorrow’s tablet may compete with yesterday’s workstation, tomorrow’s workstation will add more processing power, I/O, and storage options. Maybe it’ll be overkill for straight HD editorial, but any editorial that requires effects, motion graphics, 3D rendering, compositing, or coloring will see corresponding increases in capabilities and expectations that tablets and laptops won’t easily match.
In other words, I don’t see the “portable edit bay” (your laptop is surely not a suite) obliterating their desk-bound brethren; I see them complementing them.
One other loosely related thought: improvements in computing are evolutionary, but improvements in video are revolutionary. We have more or less consistently eased from the lowly 8088 to today’s Xeons, but we jumped from SD to HD.
Computers’ performance relative to video will improve gradually as long as HD is king, but the next quantum leap in video will set relative performance back again, just as we saw going from SD to HD.
YouTube is ready for 4K — is your iPad?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Walter Soyka
September 26, 2011 at 8:31 pm“[Aindreas Gallagher] “how would you make maya easy? “
[Gerald Baria] “Umm..autodesk just did https://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/21/daily-ipad-app-123d-sculpt/“
Respectfully, sculpting or sculpting/painting apps (including this, as well as other apps like Zbrush and Mudbox) are totally different in feature set, scope, intended purpose, and use than generalist 3D apps like Maya.
I actually even hesitate to call Maya an application; it is so immensely extensible that it’s more like a platform.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Jeremy Garchow
September 26, 2011 at 8:49 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “aren’t they complex insofar as they represent complex tasks?”
Absolutely. Editing isn’t like building a sky scraper, but I am sure that computers have made building buildings much “easier”, at least to design. The carrying out of the deed, is surely complex.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “Events are not appropriate, in my opinion,”
You mean how the Events work on a finder level (ie, the files live there), or how they operate in FCPX (ie keyword collections, et al)?
[Aindreas Gallagher] “It feels frankensteinish, to me at any rate, as an application.”
Yes, the whole picture isn’t there yet, I agree, so it might be hard to grasp what the hell is going on.
I just can’t accept the point of easier equals worse. Not working equals worse, but easier doesn’t always equal worse.
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Chris Harlan
September 26, 2011 at 9:16 pm[Andy Neil] “Gawd, that sounds depressing. I do enough work at work. Sometimes I just need to unplug from the Machine. It’s bad enough that clients and bosses expect me to answer their emails on the weekend…editing while waiting in line at the ATM or whatever might make my head explode.”
Wow. I guess one man’s prison is another’s freedom. Little electronic time-savers have made me extremely mobile over the years. They’ve made it possible for me to raise my daughter, and experience a kind of freedom I never thought possible when I joined the workforce.
Add to that, that I really enjoy what I do. For me, pulling sellects is more fun than Angry Birds. Of course, I’ve been fortunate enough to work on some prime entertainment material over the years, so that makes it easier. As for my clients and co-workers, I’m happy to take their calls, emails, and texts any time they think it is important for them to get ahold of me. Again, I’m fortunate enough, generally, to work for/with some very savvy, sensitive people who are as respectful of my time as I am of theirs.
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