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Mac Pro – Thoughts? Winner or Loser?
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Sad statement that being a ‘pro’ means you make up your mind off a 3 minute demo and a page of specs. Give me the actual machine to try using my own workflows and then I’ll give you my verdict.
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[larry towers] “Loser. Complete loser. A mac mini on steroids. Thunderbolt 2 is not fast enough to support Multiple fast graphics cards. Its the equivalent of a PCIE 3.o x 4 slot BFD. Wow. Amazingly terrible. I don’t know what to do for next year. We have 30 2008 macPros to replace that I held off on. WOW just wow. I can’t believe how terrible this is!”
Just change your name to Larry Tubes.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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“I am super happy we decided to leave Apple behind”
Good for you, vote with your wallet.
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I’m reasonably certain the GPU is not upgradable, which to be honest is the only thing that really bothers me about this system. Other than that, it looks like it packs a really amazing amount of power into a tiny (and, with that unified thermal system, probably bizarrely quiet) package. We were essentially forced onto Wintel for Resolve by last year’s lack of a Mac Pro update, but if this thing delivers solid Resolve performance (the lack of CUDA is a bit of a concern there, but I’ve seen some good numbers for Resolves OpenCL support), we’ll be moving that back to the Mac.
Some people here are looking at all the detrimental aspects of this sort of ‘workstation appliance’ approach, but I think there are some real positive aspects as well, beyond just form factor. One big one is that this will provide a very clear set of hardware for developers of pro apps to target and test with. In many respects, this will be like getting all of the consistency and reliable advantages of a turn-key system, without having to pay turn-key hardware prices. As someone who has lost a fair bit of sleep over the years to flaky hardware/software combos, that’s hugely appealing.
Of course, I haven’t seen the price yet.
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I think the split is clearly forming that for some people Pro means not what you can with “with” the machine, but what you can do “to” the machine.
I’m happy to do nothing to my machine but create.
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[Dennis Radeke] ”
We support certain OpenCL chips today with CS6 and I’m confident that you will see more about OpenCL on June 17th. 😉 More info then!”This will certainly be a determining factor for me, since I use both Apple and Adobe software.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production… with style!Check out my Mormon.org profile.
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Whatever else one may say about Apple, their design and engineering is incredible.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production… with style!Check out my Mormon.org profile.
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Dennis we don’t need to wait until the 17th… We support OpenCL on AMD cards with CC. We also support Dual GPU for rendering. Premiere will max out these systems when the ship.
Cheers
Dave
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David McGavran, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Senior Engineering Manager Adobe Premiere Pro
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[David McGavran] “Dennis we don’t need to wait until the 17th… We support OpenCL on AMD cards with CC. We also support Dual GPU for rendering. Premiere will max out these systems when the ship.
Cheers
Dave”
That is good news
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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I’m highly interested. I need to see price to performance as well.
I am confident that Adobe will further develop on openCL, as they have started to do (and Dennis now seems to hint).
I like the size, and as far as spaghetti, my current MacPros look like spaghetti, so what’s the big deal?
What is nice about Thunderbolt is that I will be able to position peripherals an easier to reach configuration, so I don’t have to heave a 60 pound behemoth out of the way to install a new ethernet cable or switch a monitor cable/eSata/whatever drive. That’s a win for me.
i can also remove just the peripheral I need to enhance/work on, rather than shutting down the whole machine, taking all of the cables out of it, heaving the whole thing out of the rack on to a workable desktop space, servicing the required part, reheaving back in to the rack, and plugging everything back in in an act of finger acrobatics. Also a win.
If you have PCIe slots, you usually have multiple cables sticking out of them. This isn’t anything new.
What I am curious about:
The drawings on the website seem to indicate user replaceable RAM and perhaps even replaceable PCIe storage.
On my current MacPro, I have three bootable OSes. I bounce back between two of them daily. I will need this functionality for the future. I am curious if this will be possible with the new PCIe based storage (or lack of it) or can I boot from external TBolt drives accordingly.
At the very least, I just hope it works and works faster than an iMac.
I am also curious about Resolve performance unless Adobe can get some serious Speedgrade workflow love going soon.
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