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Mac Pro Pricing
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One of the things keeping me from an iMAC, (besides it not being powerful enough) is the lack of user replaceable hard drive. I mean really, have you looked at how hard it is to access iMac’s HD? I have had bad luck with HD, and want that quick turn around in case something goes wrong. That’s why I bought a retina over the iMac, at least I could replace/upgrade the harddrive. I’ve allways had good luck with ram, so I tend to error to replacing HD ease vs. ram.
It looks like replacing ram and hd in the mac pro will be a snap. (as long as they don’t solder it in place. that would piss me off)
the word on the street is they gfx is solder? anyone confirm?
Brooks Tomlinson
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Well, therein lies the rub for nearly all of Apple’s latest PC’s, right? I am adept enough to replace a drive within an hour in case of failure. But now, in a crunch, you’d have to make a Genius Bar appointment and probably end up having to replace an entire unit to get any kind of fast turnaround time.
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[Herb Sevush] “FCPX – MAC only – best Multicam, negative on the rest”
Unless it isn’t.
Hear that? That silence? It’s all the folks here still bitching about magnetism. And “shudder” connected clips. And vertical verses horizontal arrangements. And the “lack” of absolute time. Etc. etc. etc.
All these things that were supposed to be major “deal breakers” and huge problems are now seen as just alternative ways to work. They don’t seem to be stopping large swaths of editors from using the software productively.
X is now widely viewed as perfectly rational editing program based on serious editors getting serious work done on it every day. It’s chock full of lots of nice features. Sure it’s no more “perfect” than any other solution, but it IS perfectly capable of getting LOTS of jobs done start to finish.
So it’s fair to ask if your ‘negative on the rest” is just personal resistance.
Cuz fewer and fewer people seem so see X as lacking all that much as a general editing tool.
FWIW.
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[Bill Davis] “So it’s fair to ask if your ‘negative on the rest” is just personal resistance. “
It’s totally personal. As is my description of Avid “like taking a step backwards in time.” As is my negativity to Adobe’s Creative Cloud. Funny how none of those other personal reactions bothered you.
As for the rest – well Bill you’ll notice I still have FCPX in my decision matrix, meaning I haven’t ruled it out, meaning my negative feelings about the magnetic timeline are not a deal breaker for me, they’re just something I have to factor into the equation, just like the lack of PCIe lanes in the Tube – I may not like it, but it still might be the best way for me to go.
I long ago gave up on having everything my way.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Gary Huff] “But now, in a crunch, you’d have to make a Genius Bar appointment and probably end up having to replace an entire unit to get any kind of fast turnaround time.”
In a crunch just boot to an external drive. Problem solved.
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[Gary Huff] “But now, in a crunch, you’d have to make a Genius Bar appointment and probably end up having to replace an entire unit to get any kind of fast turnaround time.”
On the other hand, for facilities with multiple Mac Pros, if one of them goes down in a suite during a client session or something, you can just grab another one and swap it in by hooking up some cables — you won’t have to move a bunch of drives or PCIe cards over.
And Genius Bar turnaround can be impressive these days. A few months back Apple swapped a rMBP screen for me in less than an hour.
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[Chris Kenny] “On the other hand, for facilities with multiple Mac Pros, if one of them goes down in a suite during a client session or something, you can just grab another one and swap it in by hooking up some cables — you won’t have to move a bunch of drives or PCIe cards over.”
Yeah, that’s definitely not going to be most of us (and isn’t “facilities are going away!” one of the rallying cries of this subforum?) especially if the Mac Pro is, as I suspect it’s going to be, is around $6k entry level.
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[Herb Sevush] “As for the rest – well Bill you’ll notice I still have FCPX in my decision matrix, meaning I haven’t ruled it out, meaning my negative feelings about the magnetic timeline are not a deal breaker for me, they’re just something I have to factor into the equation, just like the lack of PCIe lanes in the Tube – I may not like it, but it still might be the best way for me to go.
I long ago gave up on having everything my way.
“Well noted.
Well reasoned.
Point to you.
Period.
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[Brooks Tomlinson] “One of the things keeping me from an iMAC, (besides it not being powerful enough) is the lack of user replaceable hard drive. I mean really, have you looked at how hard it is to access iMac’s HD? I have had bad luck with HD, and want that quick turn around in case something goes wrong. That’s why I bought a retina over the iMac, at least I could replace/upgrade the harddrive. I’ve allways had good luck with ram, so I tend to error to replacing HD ease vs. ram.
It looks like replacing ram and hd in the mac pro will be a snap. (as long as they don’t solder it in place. that would piss me off)
the word on the street is they gfx is solder? anyone confirm?
Brooks Tomlinson
“I dream in 32bit float””I don’t think anyone can confirm until at least pre-production units are given to specialized press or something. I think I’ve read somewhere that the gfx could be replaced. However, as they are probably using some kind of custom made interface/connector, I’d say it’s very likely only Apple will have replacement gpus and they won’t sell them to the public for a bit of DIY -
Funny…when I first bought my rMBP I was having thunderbolt connectivity issues with my Pegasus TB raid. I took the machine to the apple store and they just gave me a new rMBP. Didn’t even bother to fix.
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