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  • Bill Davis

    November 2, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    [Michael Gissing] “Everything this article touts is already available but only used by VFX and collaborative workflows. “

    Uh, it’s not an “article” actually. It’s a public description of a white paper with links to the same. At this point it’s university researchers publishing the results of development and testing – as a stage in the peer review process.

    That’s kinda how REAL progress in technology is supposed to happen.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Bill Davis

    November 2, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Exactly, at least half of my clients wouldn’t want ANY of their rushes uploaded to the cloud due to security issues.”

    Uh, isn’t this precisely why Emery and the folks at Frame.io spent a significant chunk of their $200,000,000 VC round on file transport security?

    It’s not inconceivable that someday, you can drop an encrypted drive off at the digital equivalent of an Alphagraphics – and while you are on the airplane organizing your proxy files, the encrypted originals are being uploaded into your cloud account.

    Seems utterly do-able to me.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Uh, isn’t this precisely why Emery and the folks at Frame.io spent a significant chunk of their $200,000,000 VC round on file transport security?”

    Yes, but that doesn’t satisfy the concern. If Facebook, Google, et all can’t stop hacking with all of their money, what makes you think Frame is any safer? Besides, the danger is getting to Frame, more so than Frame (or anyone else) itself.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    [Bill Davis] “while you are on the airplane organizing your proxy files, the encrypted originals are being uploaded into your cloud account”

    But by working with proxies, you have added MORE friction, not less.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Erik Lindahl

    November 2, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    I find the idea of eGPU compelling. Sadly, the performance hit is quite noticeable from the tests I’ve done with a 2018 MBP. Also app-support is quite sketchy – and the cost overhead is substantial.

    Really, the MacMini is quite a dissapointment for video-professionals. Premiere, FCPX and Resolve really loves a fast GPU. The latest and greatest MacMini have a very sad chip. I don’t see how they couldn’t have added a small VEGA-model in there. Intel even has the 4-core + Vega bundle.

    No clue what Apple is thinking there. They have a 10 GbE option but no dGPU?

    The new MacMini will replace our current server very well however. It’s almost a perfect replacement there.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 4, 2018 at 3:21 am

    [Bill Davis]”Uh, it’s not an “article” actually.”

    Is this the five minute argument?

  • Oliver Peters

    November 4, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    FYI – here’s the place with the racks of Macs shown in the Apple keynote presentation.

    https://9to5mac.com/2018/11/01/mac-server-room/

    Make sure to watch the video for details.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Eric Santiago

    November 4, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Why? 4K isn’t really dependent on GPU if you have fast storage. I can do 4K on a 2014 MBP.”

    So true. For me, the RED RAW 4K DCI was editable on my 2008 (Unibody) MacBookPro.
    I hung on that one due to the NVIDIA card.
    I was using eSATA on that for a few years till I stopped doing DIT work.

  • Bob Zelin

    November 4, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    Erik writes –
    The new MacMini will replace our current server very well however. It’s almost a perfect replacement there.

    Well, don’t get too excited there. In November 2017, I was crushed when I saw that Apple had ruined the
    MacOS Server product with High Sierra. Everything up to 10.12.6 Sierra server worked great. So when I saw your post, I decided to try at least simple file sharing using macOS 10.14 Mojave. So Apple has fixed the simple file sharing issues (kind of) that existed in 10.13, but it’s not like the old server product from Apple, and in fact, for most simple server applications, you don’t actually need the Server software on your “server” for file sharing, users, groups, permissions, etc. I would love to see Apple want to get back into that business. (Foxxconn purchased Thecus – a competitor of QNAP and Synology – I have no idea why, other than to possibly help Apple get back into the server business) – but as of now – eeh. At least the new Mac mini can come with a native Aquantia based 10G ethernet port, which will leave the T3 buss available for your drive array. Of course, with the influx of Chinese NAS boxes that are dirt cheap, the price of an external T3 array for the new Mac mini (even if there does become a server again) – is not financially appealing anymore.

    There are 2 things that I know that I will never know. 1) is there life after death, and 2) what is Apple going to do next.

    Bob Zelin

    Bob Zelin
    Rescue 1, Inc.
    bobzelin@icloud.com

  • Bill Davis

    November 5, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “But by working with proxies, you have added MORE friction, not less.”

    It’s never felt that way to me, Oliver.

    Proxy/Original switching has been astonishingly frictionless for me since FCP X 1.0.

    And en/transcoding has constantly sped up over the past 6 years as well. So I barely think about it.
    As you well know, field shoots are draining. If you shoot a typical day, you seldom get on an airplane THAT evening. You crash and re-charge before flying out the next day. Hotel room proxy generation is a sleep and forget deal mostly, IME.

    Plus, just like DSLRs shoot RAW and JPEG at the same time. I can see an evolution on the close horizon where a video capture device will record RAW and Proxy at the same time and shooters leave the set with either/or/both. Maybe Atomos will follow up their ProRes RAW play with something like that by NAB? Who knows. I still think the deployment of RAW of one form or another is waiting for the monitor makers to create something affordable where we can SEE the REC2020 signal reliably. Then all bets are maybe off.

    Time will tell.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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