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Look whats comming to avid (maybe)
Derek Andonian replied 14 years, 10 months ago 20 Members · 43 Replies
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Aindreas Gallagher
July 15, 2011 at 4:16 pm[Matt Callac] “Take this for example. I’m an accountant. I’m not a professional, so YOU might call me an amateur accountant, but I would not agree with that as a terminology because to me the term amateur means someone who is making a living as an accountant,”
I swapped out the ever pleasant skateboarding for accountancy.
For those who pay their bills with it, who have trained competitively for years to gain full proficiency at it, accountancy is their profession.
For those who pay their bills with it, who have trained competitively for years to gain full proficiency at it, editing is their profession.
nonbody noodles with accountancy for fun, people noodle with photography, sport, music, media, we’re all naturally drawn to them – it doesn’t mean they are not professions.
editing is a profession.
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Matt Callac
July 15, 2011 at 4:42 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “For those who pay their bills with it, who have trained competitively for years to gain full proficiency at it, editing is their profession.”
Quick OT “competitive edit training”. I have images in my head of editors wearing sweat bands gearing up for awesome one on one editing competitions.
Lets say I worked in Hollywood for years cutting films. No doubt i’m a professional editor. I got sick of the hollywood system, so I quit and went into business for myself cutting commercials. Am I still a pro? Now I get tired of dealing with large corporations and editing by committee. Then I change my focus again and decide to only do Local advertising for mom and pop type shots? Am I still a pro? Then I realize mom and pop are just as nit-picky as hollywood producers and corporate bureaucracies. Now I decide to only do weddings. Am I still pro?
There are different subsets of the editing community and each one has different workflows and different needs. Wedding videography is not necessarily less “professional.” Is there less technical know-how and less need for knowlege of “professional video formats” than someone doing commercials, or documentaries…Absolutely. But the people doing that type of work still consider themselves professionals and are still pro by those with more liberal understandings of the word pro.
-mattyc
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Chris Kenny
July 15, 2011 at 5:33 pm[Dave LaRonde] “And you still haven’t answered my question: how much is Apple spending to buy you off?”
“Anyone who disagrees with me must be disingenuous”. Nice argument.
In any event, you’re misrepresenting my actual position, which is that a) Apple probably should have kept offering FCS3 during a transitional period, but that b) the fact that Apple stopped doing so does not mean copies of it are literally unattainable and, realistically, will not have the sort of apocalyptic effects on people’s businesses that some have tried to claim.
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Eduardo Serrano
July 15, 2011 at 6:49 pmIt’s interesting that in several parts of the world, south america, for example, there’s a difference between and “Editing” and a “Montagem”. So the professional that usually works in the film business is called a “montador” and the person that works in everything else is an “editor”. It’s a bit snob, but that is what it means. It comes from the french school of filmmaking. I guess that the term editor comes from people that started working with tapes and all the professionals generated by that. Montage is more for theatrical release. So, one could say that fcpx is designed for editors, not montage professionals.
Is there any similar terms in English?
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Dan Stewart
July 15, 2011 at 6:57 pmIn English we say:
1. work under pressure in teams with expensive equipment to earn food = professional
2. help Randy make his holiday videos = amateur
and now new definition:
Rely on Apple = amateur
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Jamie Franklin
July 15, 2011 at 7:05 pm[Chris Kenny] “the fact that Apple stopped doing so does not mean copies of it are literally unattainable and, realistically, will not have the sort of apocalyptic effects on people’s businesses that some have tried to claim.”
Wow…
This has become completely dogmatic for you. Ideologically argued at every turn…
I’ve seen this kind of argument more so in politics than frakkin software. In your faith based attempts for everyone else to see the light, you have completely blinded yourself…
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Aindreas Gallagher
July 15, 2011 at 7:18 pm[Matt Callac] “editors wearing sweat bands gearing up for awesome one on one editing competitions.”
you never did that?
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Matt Callac
July 15, 2011 at 7:57 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “you never did that?”
No, kinda jealous I didn’t grow up cutting in the 80’s.
-mattyc
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Aindreas Gallagher
July 15, 2011 at 8:22 pmI started editing in wales in the fifties – if I remember right we had to use coal to splice the reels.
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promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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