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Logic of exporting to DV for output to DVD
Kevyn Bashore replied 15 years, 4 months ago 9 Members · 28 Replies
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Greg Ball
February 10, 2009 at 8:56 pmHi Mike, I seem to remember you were working on a similar project. How did it turn out? What settings did you use?
I think it would be great of Noah would create a tutorial video to walk through the steps.
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Terry Mikkelsen
February 10, 2009 at 8:57 pmSetup some 30 second shots and see what floats your boat. Plus you can extrapolate your time invested to your entire piece and see if its worth the image you are getting.
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Mick Haensler
February 10, 2009 at 9:10 pmThe project turned out good, but I was using the aforementioned DV sequence workflow that Noah doesn’t like. I think it could have been better. Bottom line, the client was happy. Once I have a handle on Noah’s workflow I’m going to do a side by side and see if there is a difference.
Mick Haensler
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Greg Ball
February 10, 2009 at 11:56 pmI’ve been doing this for a month with no optimum set-up. Where ever I post I get different answers. It’s not a matter of what “floats my boat”, there must be a specific workflow SOMEBODY uses to get good results. Lots of people are shooting on EX1 and outputting Standard DVDs.
While I appreciate your response and respect your opinion, I’m hoping for more precise and complete advice. Thanks Terry
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Noah Kadner
February 11, 2009 at 4:45 am[Mick Haensler] “Noah
If you could go through the EXACT workflow I think it might be more helpful. For instance, you don’t say whether to export using Quicktime or Quicktime Conversion. Also, there is no Prores 422 HQ 720X480 16:9 codec listed anywhere. You can use Quicktime Conversion and set the size to 720X480 and choose Prores 422 HQ 16:9, but this is more than just choosing a codec. This also opens up a whole new world of possibilities which were not explained in your post. Such as Frame Rate, should I check the Interlace box and if so, Upper or Lower, Should I check Deinterlace Source in the Size window. As a lot of us have found out, one little mistake in the workflow can mean a great looking SD DVD or trash. Thanks in advance.
Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media”You don’t need to make a new sequence at all- in fact this will add extra work resizing and stuff. Just export with QuickTime Conversion to ProRes HQ, 16:9 24p, none fields(it shouldn’t even be an option- and I’m assuming you edited 24p timeline from the camera).
That’s pretty much it. When that’s done drop that clip into Compressor and go to 16:9/24p MPEG-2 at the highest bitrate for the length of program (below 7.9 Mbps).
Or you could just grab my DVD and I show you how to do it step by step. 🙂
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Mick Haensler
February 11, 2009 at 1:51 pmHey Noah
I figured it out. I just did a side by side comparison with a project I did using “the other” method and I have to say it looks better. Not mind blowing better, but noticeably so. I think I do need to get your DVD. I’ve been limping along for a year now and really need to start diving deeper. BTW, thanks for all the free help here on the Cow.
Mick Haensler
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Greg Ball
February 11, 2009 at 7:08 pmMike,
What did you figure out? What did you do? I’m assuming you used Noah’s quicktime conversion suggestion Did you use check interlaced or not? What compressor settings did you use? Can you at least detail your work flow? What’s the end use of your video? Wide screen Plasma?
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Mick Haensler
February 11, 2009 at 8:08 pmWorkflow was actually pretty simple but did take a while. My project was 1080 30P so I didn’t de interlace. I made a Prorez HQ 780X420 MOV file. A nine minute piece took about an hour to render. In Compressor a used the 90 minute DVD best quality preset. After that rendered out I dropped that into DVDSP and made a SD DVD. The end user on this one is across the board. I compared both DVD’s on an old tube TV, my theory on that is, if it looks good there, it will look good anywhere. Hope that helps. Let me know if you need more info, or you can order Noah’s DVD.
Mick Haensler
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Greg Ball
February 12, 2009 at 1:35 amThanks to all of you I finally have a good looking SD DVD from the EX1!
Special Thanks to Noah, Chris and Mike.
Noah, I don’t own the camera but I’m starting to edit the footage. If I buy the camera, I will definately buy your DVD! Thanks again. -
Noah Kadner
February 12, 2009 at 3:01 pmYeah sorry about that- I should have clarified- you never, ever use the deinterlace filter. Wish they would take that out of FCP entirely as it’s a source of so many problems.
Noah
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