Locking in and outs in Bin (or what ever they call it now)

[Jean-françois Robichaud]

Very nice. That’s a relief. Not being able to save my in/out points was a major problem for me.

Now once the range has been made a favorite, moving the handles won’t update the favorite range. If I widen the range and hit F it works, but if I narrow it, it won’t. F is additive, U is subtractive. To remove part of a favorite range, you can select the part you do not want then hit U. Note that if you substract (U) an area from the middle of the favorite range, you end up with 2 favorites. Yes, there can be multiple favorite ranges in a single clip, which is very useful for long clips! Favorite ranges cannot overlap though: If you make a new favorite that overlaps 2 separate favorites, they all get merged into one.

Alternatively, after selecting the favorite, you can hit U to remove it entirely, move the handles and hit F again to save your new range. You can also mark ranges as rejected by hitting delete.

Take a look at clip that has multiple favorites in List View. Twirl down the view by tapping the triangle: all favorite and rejected ranges are listed. At the top of the Event Browser, you can select to hide rejected clips, show only favorites, etc. When showing only favorites, multiple favorite ranges within the same clip appear as different clips.

[Craig Seeman]

You don’t need to search for Favorites to do this. This feature is usable in the Collection it sits in. Of course if you do a Favorite search for other reasons all these marked clips will show up there as well and it’ll be pretty crowded.

Yes, I’d still like to have the ranges stick until changed too. At least the workaround is simple. Just hit F and marking and click on the green bar to get the range back when needed. Hit U to get rid of it.

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Craig Seeman] “Just hit F and marking and click on the green bar to get the range back when needed”

The issue for me is that my source clips are typically 90 minutes long or more so finding a one second long green bar by eye can be a tricky business 😉 (I cut movie trailers which explains the typically long source clip/tiny selection ratio.)

But I am finding this very useful, thanks.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Craig Seeman]

[Jean-François Robichaud] “Yes, there can be multiple favorite ranges in a single clip, which is very useful for long clips! “

Yes, in fact if you ever want to have multiple save in and outs rather than just the last one you used, this now makes it possible. I’ve wanted to do this as well.

[Jean-François Robichaud] “You can also mark ranges as rejected by hitting delete.”

And thus you can keep track of what you’ve done as well.

As your descriptions show, there’s really powerful project organization while editing. Favorite range can be Selects, Reject range after used, Unrated is your other stuff. Another thing I like about all this is that it’s single key strokes without modifier keys. Doing this with one finger keeps the other hand free.

Once one gets that FCPX is a metadata based database it can extend one’s thinking about how to handle project organization.

[Craig Seeman]

[Simon Ubsdell] “The issue for me is that my source clips are typically 90 minutes long or more so finding a one second long green bar by eye can be a tricky business”

In Filmstrip mode, change the thumbnail duration to some number like 1m or even smaller (down to 1/2s).
What I’m wishing is a key command to do this.

You can grab that tiny little Thumbnail frequency bar or use Command + or – depending on how you want to change it but if you’re going from All to 1/2s for example, that’s a lot of key strokes. I’d like to jump from All to a chosen frequency on one keystroke.

Alternately one might go from List View to Filmstrip View already set to the duration you want but then that toggle should be a keystroke as well. I haven’t checked yet if that can be assigned but that would be a feature request if it can’t.

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Craig Seeman] “In Filmstrip mode, change the thumbnail duration to some number like 1m or even smaller (down to 1/2s).
What I’m wishing is a key command to do this.”

Because this is how I had it in FCP7, I’ve already mapped the zoom function onto F1 (zoom extents), F2 (zoom in) and F3 (zoom out) which means it’s easy to scale the Brwoser clip with a single key rather than using the slider or Cmd-/= which of course gives the same result.

So zooming in and out is easy for me, finding those little green bars is harder – which is why I’m using the Favourites tab to find them in this case. I will also look at breaking up my longer clips into keyword selections (Scenes/sequences) to make them shorter to search. Skimming through very long clips is a chore.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Matt Callac]

[Simon Ubsdell] “The issue for me is that my source clips are typically 90 minutes long or more so finding a one second long green bar by eye can be a tricky business ;-“

Simon,
that’s the whole point of keywords. You skim through your giant clip looking for what you want to use…and you do keyword ranges to pull selects/log the giant clip. I’d guess that’s why key ranges don’t stick. They didn’t expect you to keyword giant segments unless they were going to be used as giant segments.

-mattyc

[Brad Baker]

[Craig Seeman] “[Simon Ubsdell] “The issue for me is that my source clips are typically 90 minutes long or more so finding a one second long green bar by eye can be a tricky business”

In Filmstrip mode, change the thumbnail duration to some number like 1m or even smaller (down to 1/2s).
What I’m wishing is a key command to do this.”

You can also use ; and ‘ to jump from favorite to favorite in the filmstrip view. Then there’s no need to zoom way in on your giant clip to find your in’s/outs.

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Brad Baker] “You can also use ; and ‘ to jump from favorite to favorite in the filmstrip view.”

Exactly what I need, thanks. Years of experience have taught me that breaking my material down with keywords would both not be a good use of time in my case, it would also mean that it takes more time to access the material and review the available options. Workflows that require a progressive refining and selection of the material would clearly benefit, but it is essential for me to be able to access everything instantly all the time rather than have any search process standing in the way of that access, however sophisticated and fast it might be. Your tip solves all that for me perfectly. It’s good to know that non-typical workflows like mine can still be well accommodated by FCPX.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Jonathan White]

That favourites tip is wonderful, great for breaking down my interviews on the fly…. only problem is I’d like a quick way to rename them on the fly too…. i.e. change favourite to something I choose or add a note… is the only way just to double click in the column every time?
Thanks,
Johnny

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