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  • John Davidson

    April 5, 2007 at 1:29 am

    Thanks guys. I thought I was nuts or something (more than usual anyways).

    Steve, I ended up remapping the zoom out/in to just regular old plus/minus, and I also remapped clear in/out to y & r (no option click) – between that and shift-z I usually can handle the zooming thing.

    You know, it’s always a good thing (in my opine) to point out little things like these. It’s the only way they get attention to at least have an option for customization included in future versions of FCP. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, so they say.

    All of this pales in comparison to the number of wasted hours I spent in life undoing avid edits because I was in the wrong mode (trim/effects/segment). I love my FCP.

    John Davidson____ writer | producer | director____https://www.magicfeather.tv

  • Steven Gonzales

    April 5, 2007 at 2:00 am

    “I’m just not a mouse drag/drop kinda guy when it comes to editing into a sequence. Too many times it inserts instead of overwrites, wrecking timings.”

    When you drag to the timeline, if you are over the midline of the track, you are inserting and the image of the clip appears as an outline.

    If you drag below the midline of the track, it is an overwrite, and the image of the clip appears as a solid rectangle.

    If this visual feedback is insufficient to alert you, I’m not sure what type of visual feedback would help remind you that the canvas/timeline is already marked with in and out.

  • Bret Williams

    April 5, 2007 at 3:38 am

    Good god man, have you ever even opened the motion tab? Never expanded the canvas? How do you move a graphic from outside the frame to the other side, outside the frame? I mean, you’ve got to shrink that thing down to see the wireframe offscreen.

    Anyway, yeah I’m in the same boat nevertheless. I’d go as far as to call it a bug. Didn’t always operate that way. My gripe is that if you’re in the sequence window marking in points and you hit f10 or press the red overwrite button to make an edit, the current window changes to the canvas. I guess I understand that if you press the red button it would because the red button is IN the canvas window, but pressing f10 shouldn’t do this. I’m pretty sure it does. But maybe it is just the red button… too lazy to check right now.

  • Bret Williams

    April 5, 2007 at 3:45 am

    And if you make the tracks their smallest size, insert isn’t an option with the dragging.

  • Chi-ho Lee

    April 5, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    So what some of you really want in the next version of FCP is an “Avid Mode” checkbox in the preferences. Make FCP behave just like Avid! Maybe that’ll bring module editing modes to FCP as well as well as the 1990s purple interface.

    Not to sound unsympathetic, but if you want the interface to be like Avid, then go edit on Avid. It just kills me how many times people say it’s a bug, why doesn’t it behave like Avid. As if Avid’s implementation is the absolute truth? Sounds like what people really want when they use FCP is to be using a $1300 Media Composer.

    I’m editing a big job on Avid now and there are quite a few things on the Avid that I wished would be more like FCP, ie. Match Frame. – Avid match frame only brings up your playhead on the current frame, it doesn’t show you the in/out point you used in the timeline. I’d much prefer the FCP match frame, where it shows your in/out and place the playhead on the frame you matched from. But I wouldn’t say Avid’s method is a bug! I’d see what kind of responses I’d get on the official Avid forum if I posted “Is Avid going to fix their match frame bug in their next version so it behaves like FCP???”

    -CHL

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
    http://www.chiholee.com

  • Michael Hancock

    April 5, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    No need to go to the Avid forum–we’ll bring it to you!! 🙂

    When you Match frame in Avid it clears the In and Outs previously marked on your source clip and sets an In point on the frame you matched. To avoid this, hit Alt+Matchframe (I don’t know the equivalent on a Mac–maybe Option+Matchframe or Command+Matchframe–not really familiar with Macs, sorry). It will retain the original In and Out marks in the source clip and park your playhead on the frame you Matchframed (is that a word?). That’s the “workaround” to get it to behave a little more like FCP. Note, though, that it will won’t show the In and Out you used on the timeline unless those In and Outs were the last thing you marked in your source clip.

    I’d like to see Avid offer the option to Matchframe with the timeline In Out’s marked. That would be nice!

    Michael.

  • Chi-ho Lee

    April 5, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    Didn’t know that. Thanks! Not exactly the same thing as you mentioned, but helpful nonetheless.

    [MHancock (promoboy)] “I’d like to see Avid offer the option to Matchframe with the timeline In Out’s marked. That would be nice!”

    Yeah. Seems like a great feature that everyone would find helpful, FCP, Avid, even Premiere Pro guys! : )

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
    http://www.chiholee.com

  • Steve Courtney

    April 5, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    You know, you’re totally right. I’ve been Cmd-ing when I meant to be Opt-ing. It’s apparently been too long since I “RTFM”‘d. I had remembered it incorrectly. Thanks a lot.

    Steve

  • Steve Courtney

    April 5, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    No, no, you’re right. I was just being overly-emphatic. I do resize the Timeline roughly 1000 times more often than I resize the Canvas window, but there are instances when it’s totally called for.

    Steve

  • Jok Daniel

    April 6, 2007 at 6:35 am

    I agree about the window focus behaviour — it is very annoying. On Avid, I can assemble really quickly with my hands on JKL, IO and B. The focus never leaves the source window, and I can zip through a camera roll making selects. On FCP I need another few keystrokes after every edit, which really breaks the flow.

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