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Lightworks – As Popular As FCPX?
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Not trying to bust anybody’s chops or anything, because believe it or not, I too have been making a good living using the various FCP variants for the better part of the last decade. I’ve found FCP7 (FCS3) and FCP X to run without issue on both Snow Leopard and Lion while coexisting on the same boot drive. Granted, I’ve always had backups that I could go to (and haven’t needed to BTW), but that’s just common sense. Maybe I’m just lucky or I spend a good amount of time maintaining my various systems.
I just I didn’t understand why you are sure that if you load FCP X onto your system, suddenly FCS3 becomes unusable? Certainly there can be instances where caution is the better of valor, especially with brand new software, but FCP X is in its 4th revision now. All of my 3rd party stuff (BM Multibridge Extreme, 4 Sonnett RAIDS, Euphonix controllers, etc.) still work with 7; and they work to whatever extent they can with FCP X.
There are just a lot of cool things that X does that really make 7 look dated. Just saying you might wanna try it.
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Its a simple matter Mike that FCPX has no place in my broadcast finalising workflow. I run a Kona3 card and there are driver differences between FCS3 and FCPX so I could have FCPX but without broadcast monitoring. Tits on a bull. I grade in Color and play out finished program to HDCam & digibeta so FCS3 is my tool of choice and FCPX is not suitable. Lightworks is also not a replacement contender for FCS3 either but I can play with it on a WIN machine.
I know FCS3 can work with Lion and that if you take precautions with the install you won’t break Motion/ Compressor in FCS3. All the best advice for years has been to do clean installs when you change OS. I have a really stable install on SL so there is no motivation to change OS for a system that must run Legacy software until I can upgrade to a finishing system like Smoke, CS6 or both. Then it will be a simple matter of partitioning and installing the appropriate OS. At that point FCPX may or may not be installed depending on demand.
Pressure to keep up will require updating OS. One day FCS3 will break in Lion or Mountain Lion and it won’t be fixed. This is the time old Apple way. It comes down to personal preferences and I have a lot to lose and zero to gain by installing FCPX at the moment.
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From your original post it seemed that you thought there was some death-lock that X would put on 7. That was my response. Hey, I totally get that FCP X won’t cut it for broadcast, especially if it breaks 3rd party stuff like it would for you. I’d never try to do the stuff I’ve done for Discovery on FCP X. Can’t be done as easily as with 7 – would be a MAJOR pain in the as trying. And as you alluded – time is money.
Just thought it might be worth a $100 drive to poke around and realize that there could be something to gain having FCP X around. It has the one of the best/easiest keyers I’ve ever used, does work with Resolve (though I do prefer Color as well), and you can digitize/print to tape via the BM software. (I guess not having my Blackmagic stuff break didn’t put me right off it.) Sound mixing is the next big thing they need to address. X is amazing for web content/file based delivery without BM, though.
And yes, I still love 7, but I have come to realize that when X is ready, it really will blow 7 away with its ease and speed.
I’m sure you’ll try it at some point, so when you do all the best!
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[Herb Sevush] “Was I dreaming or was it you talking about the future of editing belonging to whoever could capture the kids downloading cheap software to work on their skateboard videos. I guess these 250000 casual users don’t count.”
Downloads don’t necessarily turn into users (even casual ones), especially free downloads.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read our blog.
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[Michael Gissing] “One day FCS3 will break in Lion or Mountain Lion and it won’t be fixed. This is the time old Apple way. It comes down to personal preferences and I have a lot to lose and zero to gain by installing FCPX at the moment.”
I just lost Motion on one of my Lion machines in a way I can’t yet explain. Hopefully it will reinstall when I have a chance to do so.
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[Walter Soyka] “My purchase of an FCPX license turned out to be more representative of my level of professional interest in it than my level of serious use.”
Sure, this isn’t unheard of with paid software, but the threshold interest has to read for a $0 download is significantly lower than for a $300 download.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read our blog.
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[Dominic Deacon] “Lightworks is in a strange place at the moment. I love it’s interface. It’s alien but just feels custom built for cutting features. The problem is it is totally alien so it’s does take a lot of learning and who can committ the time to learning a program that you can’t yet use on serious work?”
My problem is that I haven’t been able to import any footage in Lightworks without it crashing. So.. That’s that.
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Ok, so I’m running LION, FCP X Trial, FCP 7, Resolve, Premiere, and BlackMagic Intensity Extreme. No problems between any of these apps. The Lion was a clean install. There are no problems with Lion unless you’ve got some rosetta needing app.
The trial version of X is less problematic than the regular version of X simply because of the name. It has trial at the end. There’s no confusion. When you aren’t running the trial you have to put the older FCS3 apps in a folder from what I understand. I also understand you could easily break roundtripping to Motion if you have both versions of Motion installed. But FC7 has a preference panel where you set up which app opens which file type. It can be dealt with I’m sure.
Anyway, don’t fear the trial at least. The trial doesn’t really do much from what I can tell but at the prefs, a couple project and event folders, and the trial app.
FCS is EOL. I’m not saying FCX is the answer. It isn’t. But the BlackMagic monitoring works. You can capture and output with their logging software. You can grade with DaVinci with a real roundtripping experience (from X or 7).
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Yeah I’ve had the same problem if I’m importing anything above standard definition. Seems it’s still pretty rocky.
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250000 downloads, doesn’t FCPX had more download which cost 300?
I have looked into light works twice this and last year.Problem is you need the paid version to really work with it on a pro level.
But maybe after the YouTube gen. learned it will be big when they get out of school.
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