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Lightworks
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[Tim Wilson] “But this is why I’m left asking, as an actual thing for the rhetorical ME, are we talking about this for any reason besides that it’s fun to talk about?”
I think it’s indicative of the fact that no one is truly happy with the current status quo of NLEs (or their companies). They all seem to lack something, so we keep looking. In all likelihood – there may never be a dominant NLE that hits all the bases like FCP “legacy” seems to have – ever again.
OTOH, when everyone is only using tablets for computing, we might all be using TouchEdit! 😉
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[David Lawrence] “They’re doomed. Don’t they know Sarbanes–Oxley rules make this business model completely impossible?”
I know you are being cheeky but… SOX doesn’t apply to privately held companies.
I’d also wager that logistically one product is easier to support than a multitude of increasing interconnected products and it’s not like Lightworks has been lighting up the stat sheet with new features and releases since it went open source 4 years ago. 😉
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[Tim Wilson] “EditShare doesn’t need a new cheap NLE to seek storage, though. At this point, they’re ALL cheap, even Smoke, relative to the market as a whole when ES first came on the scene. “
No, but perhaps they need their own NLE. If you look at EditShare’s offerings:
Flow: Asset Manager
Geevs: Ingest/Playout Broadcast Servers
EditShare: Shared storage, like you say, for anything
Ark: Backup and archiveWhat’s missing?
If Avid blows up, if Adobe’s Anywhere takes off, if Final Cut Pro X never makes it out of the gate, what does EditShare have to offer to anyone?
I think it’s a service that is being offered (albeit slowly) to existing and potential buyers, and perhaps a bit of insurance. They also took a fairly well known and favorably associated name, and kept it alive.
[Tim Wilson] “But this is why I’m left asking, as an actual thing for the rhetorical ME, are we talking about this for any reason besides that it’s fun to talk about?”
Integrated project sharing. That’s what has my ear at the moment.
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To paraphrase Herb:
Subscription, Stodginess, or WTF: The Debate
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Herb,
Whether it works or not, I haven’t a clue …but on the Lightworks website, under tech specs/third party it indicates support for quite a few plugins, including some of the most widely used (though not everything you mentioned) -
[John Pale] “Whether it works or not, I haven’t a clue …but on the Lightworks website, under tech specs/third party it indicates support for quite a few plugins, including some of the most widely used”
Unless things have changed in the last month or so, if you go the the Lightworks user forums you will find tons of complaints that the plug-ins don’t work as listed. Part of the problem is that a lot of users seem to be of the “open source” variety and only want open source plug-ins. Boris, in all it varieties, seems to work in the 32 bit version of LWKS but not in the new 64 bit version. As for the rest, not so much. There is no published Accesory Developers Kit to help in the creation of 3rd party plug-ins and not much interest in doing so, at least from what I gather whenever I lurk on their forum.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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“Unless things have changed in the last month or so, if you go the the Lightworks user forums you will find tons of complaints that the plug-ins don’t work as listed. Part of the problem is that a lot of users seem to be of the “open source” variety and only want open source plug-ins. Boris, in all it varieties, seems to work in the 32 bit version of LWKS but not in the new 64 bit version. As for the rest, not so much. There is no published Accesory Developers Kit to help in the creation of 3rd party plug-ins and not much interest in doing so, at least from what I gather whenever I lurk on their forum.”
Thanks for the follow up. You obviously have looked into this more deeply.
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Actually, Lightworks DOES have a plug-in architecture, and the API is freely available. To date, Boris is available, as well as several titlers and whatnot. Plus, the compositing architecture in LW is pretty powerful. I, for one, am quite excited to see it on OS X. I even purchased the proprietary console controller in anticipation.
Chris Conlee
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[Chris Conlee] ” To date, Boris is available,”
On their own forum users are stating that Boris only works with the older 32 bit version of Lightworks. Are you saying that the latest 64 bit version of Lightworks now works with the Boris family (Boris, Red, Graffitti).
[Chris Conlee] ” the API is freely available.”
But no ADK. so go ahead and develop something if you want, but don’t expect us to help or encourage you.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “But no ADK. so go ahead and develop something if you want, but don’t expect us to help or encourage you.”
You should welcome your new open source overlords…
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