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  • Andrew Kimery

    January 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I will forever be the idiot in the room, but perhaps I am misconstruing the details.”

    The Linux public beta came out last spring so maybe they mean the first non-beta version?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 30, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Isn’t that a good thing?”

    It seems to be a necessary thing. Jack of all trades, master of none. I don’t know if this is good or bad, it just seems to be reality.

    For example, look at the capability of ScreenFlow. It’s kind of nutty for “just” a screen capture software. It has chroma key, closed caption, and growing file support.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 30, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “The Linux public beta came out last spring so maybe they mean the first non-beta version?”

    Yeah, I think this is the first “release” version for Linux as Lightworks is no longer free. It’s still very cheap.

    Jeremy

  • Oliver Peters

    January 30, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Isn’t that a good thing?”

    Not really. Better when you have different, specialized development team. One of the things I liked better in Final Cut Studio. Also why it’s not good that there’s no Sent To Motion in FCP X.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Herb Sevush

    January 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I will forever be the idiot in the room, but perhaps I am misconstruing the details.”

    No, I guess it’s news that it’s no longer in Beta, but with Lightworks so far I haven’t seen much difference between public Beta and official release. So i guess this means I am the idiot in the room – a crown I will wear with pride.

    [Jeremy Garchow] ” I don’t know if you were following the FCPX Keyer threads …”

    Yes, with great interest.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “but an NLE is expected to be so much more than an NLE these days.”

    This has been true for about 10 years. Even if it’s only temp EFX and Audio Mix, the days of off-line quality NLEs are long gone.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Walter Soyka

    January 30, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Jack of all trades, master of none.”

    There’s more to the quote: “Jack of all trades, master of none, often times better than master of one.”

    Of course, I’d prefer a jack of all trades, master of some.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “This has been true for about 10 years. Even if it’s only temp EFX and Audio Mix, the days of off-line quality NLEs are long gone.”

    Kinda? Look at the alternatives. I know you haven’t really played with many NLEs software yet, but I wouldn’t consider Pr, by itself, an all in one, or Avid, or even Smoke. FCP7 certainly isn’t (the quality of fcp7 effects have always been pretty dismal) and FCPX isn’t either. But, as you say, there does have to be certain fairly finished amount of really high quality temp capability, and sometime that temp quality can be pretty damn great.

    I’m not talking about a traditional work-at-a-lower-resolution-offline, but I am talking from a quality of output stand point. Almost any NLE is capable of exporting a high quality master.

  • Walter Soyka

    January 30, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Not really. Better when you have different, specialized development team. One of the things I liked better in Final Cut Studio. Also why it’s not good that there’s no Sent To Motion in FCP X.”

    I kind of expect apps need to be T-shaped. Deep, narrow functionality in their own area, but broad, shallow functionality elsewhere.

    Don’t you expect at least a basic audio mix from your NLE, or at least rudimentary compositing, even though there are dedicated DAWs and compositors?

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 30, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Of course, I’d prefer a jack of all trades, master of some.”

    Me too. You just have to pick the trades and masters. It’s not an easy task.

  • Herb Sevush

    January 30, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] ” I think this is the first “release” version for Linux as Lightworks is no longer free. It’s still very cheap.”

    The Pro version, at least on windows, has been around for over a year. The only new thing is now they are also offering a straight purchase — they are the anti-Adobe, starting with a subscription and now moving to a perpetual license. And the Lite version is still free — limited codec support, limited i/o, but quite usable for many things.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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