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Lets wait…
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[Scott Sheriff] “Many of the features that you want to see in the ‘new’ Mac Pro are not all that important to them.”
I don’t need USB3.0 built-on. As soon as an OSX update comes out that widely supports it, I can easily put in an add-on card. I really don’t care about Thunderbolt either. Newer graphics card support is needed (AMD 7000-series or NVIDIA 500-600 series) and I don’t want to drop a lot of cash on something that’s not quite as fast.
I mean, how does a average-priced Mac Pro compare to the i7 in the latest iterations?
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Ah, I see that now. I didn’t realize the last one was so early in the year. Well, Apple has had steady growth in computer sales since the release of the i
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Ah, I see that now. I didn’t realize the last one was so early in the year. Well, Apple has had steady growth in computer sales since the release of the iPhone. It’ll be interesting to see what happens now that there is so much uncertainty in their commitment to computers.
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[Bobby Mosca] “Ah, I see that now. I didn’t realize the last one was so early in the year. Well, Apple has had steady growth in computer sales since the release of the i”
Be interesting if Apple exits the desktop market entirely in one fell swoop…
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Why?????????????????????
Move on. Get your work done. Quit worrying about it.
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[Craig Seeman] ”
Thunderbolt on MacPro is a challenge given it also carries the GPU which would mean building it in the board (like iMac or MBP) rather than a separate GPU card.
“Why? If ASUS is perfectly capable of building a motherboard (p8Z77-V) with Thunderbolt AND PCIe3 supporting FOUR GPUs via Crossfire at a price of only 180 dollars (including USB3 and eSata and dual GB Ethernet and HDMI and….) I am damn sure Apple could do the same – if they wanted.
Seriously, USB2 and FW800 only in 2012 is just completely pathetic and a ripp-off.——
“You also agree that you will not use these products for… the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.”
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I’m disappointed mostly by the lack of graphics updates and system memory etc. So I’ll stick with my old ones for now.
Not sure why anyone should care about Thunderbolt or USB3 on a computer that can use Fibre or 10GbE via a PCI card – except as a means of plugging in portable drives.
To me the update is significant if only because they put a ‘new’ tag on it on the store. The processor updates were no doubt due to a lack of the older ones in supply chains (these are more recent equivalents) – but I think they were sending a message here to the FB groups etc. – otherwise why tag it new at all?
Contrary to the usual hysteria, I think the message from Apple is “the Mac Pro is not going away – but it is in a holding pattern whilst we replace it.” The technology is coming together to make it. I think it will come too late for some – but that’s life. I’m not stampeding away from OSX when I still have viable, reliable money-making systems running software I know backwards, and with which my clients are very happy.
If you disagree with that last paragraph – no worries. But bear in mind my interpretation of this move has just as much basis in fact as the idea that the Mac Pro is dead – in other words it’s all conjecture.
And – barring the usual braggadocio on here – I suspect neither are many of you.
Stop reading tealeaves – or the entrails of what you believe are dead animals. It will only give you ulcers.
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[Ben Holmes] “Contrary to the usual hysteria, I think the message from Apple is “the Mac Pro is not going away – but it is in a holding pattern whilst we replace it.” The technology is coming together to make it.”
There is nothing technology wise that needs to come together. It’s out there, shipping. Wether the Mac Pro is dead, to be phased out, in a holding pattern, to be re-invented in 2013 or whatever: fact is that HERE and NOW and “NEW” is a “workstation” which should fill the spot of the most powerful and versatile machine Apple is shipping. Not only is it currently among their weakest, with outdated components and ridiculous io but also the most expensive machine in their line-up that qualifies to be among the worst workstation choices out there.
Simply judging it as a product, price/performance wise and in light of what the competition does: it’s an embarassing product and I feel bad for anyone who needs to buy one of these machines for whatever reason in the months ahead. They have every reason to be hysterical and pissed off because they’ve been pissed on.
Again, flawed logic as with FCPX, the promise of great things to come someday (maybe) doesn’t do anything, zero, zilch, for someone who wants and needs a Mac tower with certain functionality today.——
“You also agree that you will not use these products for… the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.”
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It’s not true to say that everything is there for a new type of Mac Pro. There is no solution to the ‘monitor out’ requirements of Thunderbolt for machines with high end gfx cards. Smaller alternatives to SATA drives are still a little too expensive to be widely used – and warrant a shrinking of the drive bays (unless you want to put notebook drives in a Mac Pro), and most people still want to run cards on a PCIe bus. In addition, new generation server chips (which have a much larger die than desktop equivalents) are not available yet in large quantities as the yields are lower on these chips. Apart from USB3 – what compelling new technology exists to warrant a change to the Mac Pro? And given the slow update cycle of large server grade chips – what newer chips exist to put in what has always been a server class machine? If you want desktop chips, Apple are happy to sell you an iMac. I think they’re very good value.
If you can’t wait – don’t. I can wait – and I will, because of my desire to keep using an operating system and ecosystem I’ve invested 10 years in and which I believe is superior to support and run. And because even the Mac Pros I bought in 2008 still do everything I need – mine have CUDA gfx and 16Gb Ram and run CS6 very nicely, as well as FCP7 which I still make my money with – oh and Avid. I’m not aware of a PC which can do all of this. Hackintoshes (although I’ve built them for personal use) have no professional interest for me.
Sorry to say I don’t subscribe to the “Apple has abandoned us” meme – but I respect the opinions of those who do. When there is a compelling combination of software and hardware that makes me want to buy a PC – I probably will, unless Apple gets there first. So far, I see no rush.
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