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Let get one thing striaght…
Douglas K. dempsey replied 14 years, 10 months ago 12 Members · 24 Replies
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Greg Burke
June 23, 2011 at 9:42 pmSo since apples showed it’s hand on where it’s going, is it that bad to “jump ship” and go with avid? I do wanna make a living video editing and make more than 12/hourly.(witch is what I’ll be making if I stay with Fcp)
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Ts O’grady
June 23, 2011 at 9:59 pmSorry your having a hard time making rate but give me a break! You’re not making $12 an hour because of the tools you’re using. Your rate is based on your experience, how you present yourself and whether you’re willing to stand your ground in order to establish a higher rate. Are you going to be one of the people on this forum that keeps coming back to blame Apple for your lack of work?
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Craig Seeman
June 23, 2011 at 10:06 pmYes, it is 32 bit Quicktime that was holding back FCP in a number of ways. Apple knew this.
They wholesale change and I think improvement that is AV Foundation was one motivator for creating a new app.Think about it. You could edit H.264 natively and in real time on an iPhone but FCP7 on a 12 core Mac couldn’t even touch that.
In this case the ability to make something power and efficient on iOS lead to improvements on the desktop. That’s why I don’t besmirch “consumer” roots. The drive to create such code is translating into a very powerful if nascent NLE. It’s going to grow into a powerhouse . . . but you can’t expect this infant to do what an adult does at the moment.
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Craig Seeman
June 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm64 bit is only one part of the equation. It’s the change that made AV Foundation, how that handles things, one might be the best GUI, how to make a better “human” interface.
At the point Apple had to make a major change, it was either take the opportunity and build something entirely new or not. I think Apple believes the new GUI, the new ways of working, will make editing faster and easier.
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Greg Burke
June 23, 2011 at 10:22 pm@TS O’Grady Whats your Hourly Rate? How old are you? How many RECURRING CLIENTS use you.
Its not that simple. I’m 26 and I’m still “New” to the Industry, I haven’t Made Connections or relationships yet. People call me and I tell them. “Okay my rate is ________ (based on the length and type of project).they tell me “That’s to High, Thanks for your time” And all the vets on here are claiming Im not skilled due to my Rate being 15-25/hourly. You vets need to wake up. I am very skilled and trained myself to be a master in FCS3 as well as Photoshop and After effects. But what you dont realize is that YOU have clients and YOU have a HUGE SAVINGS AND YOU Have the ability to turn down low paying work. I DON’T.
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Craig Seeman
June 23, 2011 at 10:38 pmPlease do post that in the COW Business forum and we’ll all give you a hand with that. They play much nicer there too.
If you freelance on other people’s systems you’ll need to know FCP7, MC5.5 and maybe CS5.5.
If you’re doing things on your own system, continue to use FCP7 and spend some time learning FCPX.
If your price range is that low, I would be very cautious about making a capital investment in a new NLE if you have FCP7.
If you don’t have an NLE yet, then, as much as I do trust Apple, you might be limited in the kind of work you can do with FCPX. Then again it’s feature might be perfect if you’re shooting or editing with AVCHD and don’t need to hand off projects.BTW you probably should be charing more than $12/hr even as a newbie but pleas post in the COW Business forum and well have a discussion about business models for newbies. I do have a lot to say but I’m not posting off topic in this forum.
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Marcus Umstead
June 23, 2011 at 10:40 pmKnowing what to charge can be tricky. I just charged a Very Large Company $50/hr for a masssive job (over 1000 hours so far) and they are happy to pay it. In fact, one of the big-whigs said my work is what they have paid $100/hr with another vendor. They no longer use that vendor, so what your worth is something you might have to juggle with what you can get away with to secure the job.
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Herb Sevush
June 23, 2011 at 10:54 pmCraig –
Before you said “it would be a challenge to mimic an old paradigm when AV Foundation’s media handling is very different.”
Why? What about AV Foundation makes a Viewer window so difficult?
“I think Apple believes the new GUI, the new ways of working, will make editing faster and easier.”
Yes, faster and easier. Like for children. You do that by limiting options, removing customization, avoiding complications like choices.
David Pogue, in his favorable review of X in the NY Times described himself as someone who thought that Imovie was inadequate and Final Cut was too intimidating. He is the ideal marketing target for FCPX.
The idea that you couldn’t write a 64 bit AV Foundation version of Final Cut Pro that could have maintained backward compatibility while upgrading speed, power and data management is ludicrous. X is the result of marketing decisions, first last and always. As the man said “follow the money.”
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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