leave in place import

[Craig Alan]

Yeah. Weird behavior. Could my choosing different options for media/render/Back-ups within the same event just not have been anticipated by FC design?

I can’t find anywhere that transcoded files are being kept from this import, FC did let me ‘leave in place’ and the media is playable within FC. When I quit and reopen, the files are off line. Not making this up. A new import of the same media is super fast. More like a relink. P2 files are read by FC without any transcode as of the last update. Fantastic improvement for anyone with a P2 cam. You can review and import just the clips you want, rename them, etc.

I found some spare drives to clean up old projects off my internal system raid. I’ll transfer this project to it. I’ll also get a usb 3 card so I can travel with a thunderbolt/usb 3 drive to and from work.

Keep reading different advice on usb 3 drives for media drives. By even if its just to copy libraries it will help cause firewire seems very slow by comparison.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Craig Alan] “Yeah. Weird behavior. Could my choosing different options for media/render/Back-ups within the same event just not have been anticipated by FC design?
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Those settings are Library based, not Event based.

[Craig Alan] “I can’t find anywhere that transcoded files are being kept from this import, FC did let me ‘leave in place’ and the media is playable within FC. When I quit and reopen, the files are off line. Not making this up. A new import of the same media is super fast. More like a relink. P2 files are read by FC without any transcode as of the last update. Fantastic improvement for anyone with a P2 cam. You can review and import just the clips you want, rename them, etc. “

I believe you that you aren’t making this up, but there seems to be something else going on. This is the import window for P2 footage for me. Notice the greyed out “Leave in place”:

[Craig Alan]

interesting. mine has not been greyed out. that said an over full firewire drive is not cutting it. So I’m biting the bullet and cleaning house to make room on the internal 3 drive raid.

I’ll start the whole project fresh just saving the P2 copies and the media that imported into “original media”.

I’ll do the usual maintenance by trashing preferences upon start up etc. My fault for just grabbing an old drive for a project with this much media. I needed to prepare for production this evening and cut the wrong corners. Man modern media with the need to back up the cards and have an on-line original media transcoded copy – thus a total of at least three copies – takes up a lot of space.

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[Craig Alan]

I am at work now and on a different and non troubled set-up, do not have ‘leave in place’ greyed out. But I am working with a finder copy of the P2 card. Could that be the difference?

I create a labeled folder in the finder and drag the entire P2 card contents into it to make a copy. Then I import that into a FC event.

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Craig Alan] “I am at work now and on a different and non troubled set-up, do not have ‘leave in place’ greyed out. But I am working with a finder copy of the P2 card. Could that be the difference?”

Yes, it will be. The leave in place is only greyed out if coming directly from a card or camera or archive. You’ll simply want to COPY everything to a predefined directory instead. After that I would suspect it should be fine. No idea what’s going on exactly without sitting in front of it.

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[Craig Alan]

https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/specs/

Native editing4 support for:

Panasonic AVC-Intra, including AVC-Intra 100 and AVC-Intra 50

I’m shooting in AVC-Intra 100. And the import window sees and reads the camera card files and my copy of them, before after and during my problem with one events media going off line.

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[Robin S. kurz]

I meant to write “You’ll simply want FCP X to COPY everything to a predefined directory instead upon import” btw. Not do it in the Finder yourself.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Craig Alan] “Native editing4 support for:”

That means you don’t have to install a 3rd party importer to being in the footage. It doesn’t mean it uses the MXF files natively.

Here’s an AVC-I file, same greyed out functionality:

Once you relink the file, right click and choose “reveal in Finder”. Where does the file show up?

The only thing I can think that happened is that you stopped the importing process before the rewrap was finished, and FCPX didn’t fully bring in the file, and therefore is incomplete. I also don’t quite understand where the media is located with your Libraries, and screen grabs would help there, if you can.

Jeremy

[Craig Alan]

Well it’s too late for that idea though I think it would just link back to the original P2 folder where I copied the card’s content.

Here’s what I just learned:

If I open the import window and select a folder (which contains a copy of a media card’s content), “leave in place” is not greyed out and it does import the clips into the event. However, if I open the folder up revealing the card’s components: “contents” and “last clip.txt” then leave in place is greyed out.

I usually use the folder I create, “media” or “original media” as the destination for the import. Until the other day when I chose ‘leave in place’ to save space.

The other thing I’ve noticed is that when I copy the contents of one of these folders back onto a P2 card the camera will display an error message but then open the card and play it fine.

The advantage I find of copying these cards into labeled folders is they then import into FC with the folder’s name as meta data. And the labeled folders are a lot easier to identify in the finder as well.

Tomorrow I’ll do an experiment and try a ‘leave in place’ and then do a ‘reveal in finder’ from a clip in the event. Should prove interesting. I will also try to apply an edit to one of these clips and see if the edit is saved.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Craig Alan] “Well it’s too late for that idea “

Why is it too late? The media exists somewhere, so let’s find out where.

You don’t have any MXF components installed like MXF4mac or Calibrated, do you?