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Leaks and reputations.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Am I wrong to feel that way?”
no
and this thread isn’t fun
time is running out, the release is obviously near.
and we have very little time left for pointless speculationlets not waste it!
did you hear that FCPX might run on the iPad 2??
Hector Berrebi
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Look, I was not taking any of you guys to task.
My second post merely addressed the post above it…
to wit: MortGoldman2 = Julian Assange
That, to me was insulting simplification. These things are FAR from equal in my thinking. So I though it worth a counter comment – which is what I did.
I’ve felt for a long time now that the discussions about FCP-X – while understandable, legitimate and largely fair – often veer into “crazy land.”
Stealing Steves work and posting it on the net, in my view, is morally repugnant. Exactly the same as it would be if someone did the same to any other content creator here. The fact that what they ripped off was HUGELY INTERESTING to me – does not excuse that it was wrong to do.
I should be grown up enough to wait the extra week. And whoever ripped this stuff should have been grown up enough to do that as well. By publicallly saying so, I’m hoping that the younger folks here who are listening and forming their “moral compass” about their video careers begin to understand that IP theft is not victimless – it’s a fundamentally dick move. And when we see it happen, we should say as much.
The Assange thing is a far different matter for the reasons I listed.
Disagree if you like. That’s fine. But this is my public position and I’m sticking with it.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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A hacker giving away his training for free is one thing. Leaking screenshots is another. Deep deep down inside, I have to admit I’m not really morally against the leaking of the screenshots. If anything, I see it more as a wakeup call to Apple to treat professionals like adults, and not trendy crazy teenagers. Honestly, what did we learn from those screenshots that we didn’t already know?
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Boy, I feel bad for linking to it. I assumed it was either by an “insider” and would soon be taken down (like the Motion pics) or it was a ‘nudge nudge, wink wink’ sort of “leak”.
But gaining entry into Ripple Training’s Mac, ripping off screenies and posting them? Seriously uncool. Steve and the gang have been good to the Final Cut community and don’t deserve the grief.
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What a lot of sanctimonious whining.
I certainly have no ill will towards Steve Martin and / or Ripple Training, but as far as it goes all this is not much different to a bunch of long lens paparazzi shots of the set of a new much anticpated movie. Of interest to those who care (in this case including me) and a big fat so what for everyone else.
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I’d agree Andy, on the basis that this forum, or those commenting were NOT the source of the leak. Who exactly are you berating, and for what? No one here did anything to harm Ripple (on top of the harm already done to them by the thief and/or bad security). The harm was already done. Lesson learnt all round I’m sure.
Personally – I think the Assange comment was stupid, and contributes nothing to this. However, if you want to talk about items already in the public domain, so be it. Many regular posters here don’t like the rumours and gossip – I think it passes an amusing few minutes a day whilst I wait for FCP X to be released.
Everyone chill out, m’kay?
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[Hector berrebi] “we have very little time left for pointless speculation”
I happen to think that this is what drives software development and results in very useful software tools.
“It would be good if__________________” is a very, very healthy thing.
As for the rest of this thread.
Nobody should be robbing anyone to get a bit of juice about software. It’s a fine line. Apple feeds the dogs just enough to make them go wild enough to want to attack to the point of stealing. One person’s marketing is another person’s reputation.
Stealing is no option, but once it hits the web there is nothing anyone can do, it’s a gasoline fire and explosion that moves to fast to control.
@Bill David
I am sorry about your friend and your efforts to remind us of how fine a person he is is noble. He should be happy to have friends like you who will go to bat for him.
David
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[David Battistella] “”It would be good if__________________” is a very, very healthy thing. “
Assuming Apple employees watch the various forums (and I suspect they do), the general discussion may be very useful to them. While I don’t think it will result in radical changes it can guide them in:
• Observing potential marketing mistakes given our reactions.
• feature tweaks in future updates as they see the needs of the community as we react to the information we have.
• prioritize feature implementation based on what we react most to.[David Battistella] “Stealing is no option, but once it hits the web there is nothing anyone can do, it’s a gasoline fire and explosion that moves to fast to control. “
As I’ve noted elsewhere, our reaction is something Apple should note as well. I previously drew parallels to the music industry and song theft. Apple has to be aware that unnecessary secretiveness impacts our behavior and possibly increases security risks. They need to examine that determine to what extent their secretiveness is a detriment to developers and endusers and consider revising their marketing approach and the controlled release of information.
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[Bill Davis] “I should be grown up enough to wait the extra week. And whoever ripped this stuff should have been grown up enough to do that as well.”
you know… i’m not involved in this, personally or professionally, nor i know anyone from ripple…
but my logic and common sense feel somewhat offended
i mean…
hackers broke into my server, they could still FCPX but they took a tutorial, they could publish the whole tutorial, but they chose to take out some random screen caps from it… strange hacker.
because if he is a hacker, and hiding behind a false name then why would he care? why not publish everything he stole… what difference would it make at that point?
to me this just looks like plain old, bad-employee case which you could maybe interpret as a “hack”, if you were trying to throw away responsibility.
again. this does not take away from how great and cool ripple training is…
or how nasty stealing is
just felt the “bad hackers stole my stuff” thing wasn’t completely in place
hector
Hector Berrebi
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Sooooo… Does anyone have a link to the leaked screenshots?
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