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  • Tom Daigon

    July 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    The XDCAM codec is really more an acquisition codec. I would never use it as a mastering codec. Have you considered mastering as Prores like we all used to do in FCP ?

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 8, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Dual 4 core is an 8 core so you’re good to go.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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    Biscardi Creative Media

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  • Andrew Southard

    July 8, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Walter – Well Duh! That makes sense–My brain wasn’t engaged on that one, Thanks.

    Tom – We do use the ProRes workflow some–but most of our work gets output back to the XDCam optical disc. In order to do that, I have to output it as an XDCam 1080i 60 VBR sequence to the XDCam deck. So staying in the native XDCam sequence makes sense to us. Quality and render times are no different. I’m open to all ideas though–enlighten me if you think we should do differently. In switching to Premiere Pro this will a be a moot point anyway, right?

    It’s nice to have an adult conversation with intelligent folks like yourselves after being bombarded with all the hype and spastic panic that has been the world of FCS over the last couple of weeks–Thanks guys!

    Drew South

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 8, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    [Drew South] “Tom – We do use the ProRes workflow some–“

    That’s the part we’re still trying to figure out here. We won’t need the ProRes workflow anymore with Premiere Pro so what will be our final mastering codec? Not sure yet and something I’m talking to a bunch of folks about to get their opinions. Once FCP goes away from our machines, that means we won’t necessarily have the ProRes codec to write to any longer. We’ll be able to read it thanks to third party plugs, but I”m not sure I want to write to an Apple Proprietary codec any longer.

    Lots to be figured out moving forward!

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Jeff Bernstein

    July 8, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Walter,

    Have you played with the Cineform codec yet? It seems to be one of the better options with multiple quality levels, multiple platform support, and a road to 3D.

    This product https://www.bitjazz.com/en/products/sheervideo/ was essentially killed by the release of ProRes. Now that Apple is on the receiving end, this solution may get new life.

  • Tom Daigon

    July 8, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Drew – “Tom – We do use the ProRes workflow some–but most of our work gets output back to the XDCam optical disc. In order to do that, I have to output it as an XDCam 1080i 60 VBR sequence to the XDCam deck. So staying in the native XDCam sequence makes sense to us. Quality and render times are no different. I’m open to all ideas though–enlighten me if you think we should do differently. In switching to Premiere Pro this will a be a moot point anyway, right?

    If you are archiving to the XDCAM I guess it makes sense to master with that codec. But using an acquisition codec for mastering makes me a bit nervous. Walter brings up a great point about not relying on Apples codec, especially in light of their current actions. Its to bad, with Alexa and others adopting it for use. And it makes such wonderfully clean compression. I feel somewhat on the fence about which mastering codecs to standardize to in the near future. I have heard good and bad about Cineform and dont know enough to make any decisions.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 9, 2011 at 10:48 am

    [Jeff Bernstein] “Have you played with the Cineform codec yet? It seems to be one of the better options with multiple quality levels, multiple platform support, and a road to 3D.”

    Not yet, but this is what a lot of folks are recommending to me as we move away from FCP. Also wondering about whether Avid would release the DNxHD codec as a stand alone item for a mastering codec.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
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    Biscardi Creative Media

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  • Tom Daigon

    July 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Walter I think your request has been answered. If I am reading this correctly, these codecs allow the reading and creation of DNxHD files.

    Avid QuickTime Codecs LE 2.1 Download [263545]

    Where can I get the QuickTime Codecs package 2.1 for Leopard, Win XP, and Vista?

    The QuickTime codecs v2.1 released with Avid Media Composer v4.x, Avid Symphony v4.x, and Avid NewsCutter v8.x can be downloaded below. For more information about these codecs visit the Avid QuickTime Codecs LE 2.1 Specifications page.
    Downloads:
    Mac_AvidCodecsLE_2.1.zip
    PC_AvidCodecsLE_2.1.zip

    These codecs are designed to run on Leopard v.10.5.5 and higher, Vista Business 32 and 64 bit, with SP1, and Windows XP Professional with SP2 or SP3.

    This codec package is required to encode SMPTE VC-3 Compliant DNxHD QuickTime files. It will also decode any DNxHD QuickTime file, regardless of its SMPTE VC-3 compliance. If you do not want to encode SMPTE VC-3 Compliant DNxHD files, but still have a need to decode them, use Avid QuickTime Codecs v.2.01

    For more information about Avid’s DNxHD SMPTE VC-3 Compliance, or to download the DNxHD Codecs necessary to playback SMPTE VC-3 Compliant media in your Avid Editing system, see this article: Professional Editors DNxHD Codec Compliance Issue.”

    Heres the link…
    https://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=263545

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • Jeff Bernstein

    July 10, 2011 at 6:37 am
  • Tom Daigon

    July 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Good catch Jeff. Thanks!

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

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