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  • Ben Holmes

    October 10, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Just saw these replies – you are both correct. I can try the export option, however it’s not a practical solution as I am in a live enviroment and don’t have the time to do it – I’ll try it before we go on air tomorrow.

    I just don’t understand how the field order got wrong in the first place. I am using the Kona PAL presets. Kona’s reponse was to suggest I try trashing prefs. I am afraid I am a few years past the first tier of tech support, so I have to now wait for the second tier to kick in – so far no response in 24 hours to my reply.

    Ben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 10, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    What happens if you make a cut that is NOT on a previous cut point? Does it happen then?

    This is a shot in the dark, but have you uninstalled and then reinstalled the drivers?

  • Ben Holmes

    October 10, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Jeremy

    I have not tried a reinstall, I’ll have to give it a go tomorrow as the machine is in heavy use. I’ll report back then to see if I can narrow the problem down at all. In the meantime, I have decided to hold off upgrades on two other systems to FCP6/Kona 4.0 until I can get this sorted. Not a happy bunny. It’s just 625/25i for gawds sakes!

    Get back to you tomorrow – thanks as ever for speedy and thoughtful replies.

    Ben

  • Tom Brooks

    October 10, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    Was the tape from which you are capturing made from a 50P source? In that case, cuts in the 50P sequence can happen every 50th of a second and a downconvert to SD (50i) could have what appears to be cuts done on the second field. This came up in regard to another post made by Leftycutter, I believe.

  • Ben Holmes

    October 10, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    Tom

    Unfortunately it’s all good ol’ 25i.

    Ben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 10, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    [Ben Holmes] “thanks as ever for speedy and thoughtful replies.

    Thanks for the sentiment and you are always welcome.

  • Carsten Orlt

    October 10, 2007 at 11:59 pm

    Ben
    I know what you going through! Had some problems with an Aurora card where fields were swapped 🙁
    I created a short DV-Pal clip (3MB) where each field is marked with 1 or 2 and a little arrow progresses from left to right. Using this clip you can easily demonstrate if A. your card is playing out correctly B. your deck recording correctly and C. you FCP capturing correctly.
    send me a mail to cofe[at]exemail[dot]com[dot]au and I can send you the file.
    Cheers
    Carsten

  • Tom Brooks

    October 11, 2007 at 12:08 am

    It’s weird that only SOME of the cuts are this way. If you shift fields on the whole clip, I assume the OTHER cuts will now be off–or not?

  • Ben Holmes

    October 12, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Just an update. I have had little time to work with the system, as it is in near constant use – I will have to do more comprehensive tests next week.

    Fundementally, the field order appears to be wrong on the Kona output, so that any clip slowed down looks horrible. The field order file I was kindly sent seems to show the clip going into an uncompressed timeline upper field first. The problem seems to be with the Kona card output. Shift fields does not fix the problem. Reinstalling the Kona drivers does not seem to fix it either – and I can’t risk a codec downgrade in the middle of this job.

    As I said before, I’m a long time Kona user and I’m stumped. I’ll be sure to report back when I have a chance to take it all apart and compare it to another system at base.

    Thanks for all your help.

    Ben

  • Stuart Simpson

    October 15, 2007 at 10:32 am

    Are you cutting something that’s been standards converted? Say from NTSC to PAL? It’s happened to me when I’ve cut NTSC to PAL converted material…

    -Simmie
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