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Kona 1080p output to Hi5 to HDMI (Grrr!)
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[Matt Riley] “In our situation, we have two displays we are dealing with; one is capable of displaying the frame rate we are natively working in (the Panasonic BT-LH1700W) and one is not (the Sony Bravia). If I have FCP add the pulldown during playback, the Bravia works fine but the Panasonic monitor looks worse.”
Yeh, that makes it a bit tougher. Serving two masters can be a challenge. If Gary’s solution can work it would be ideal for you. I have a Kona LH and after a brief test just now I’m pretty sure it won’t work on that, but Kona 3 has cross-convert capabilities, so its possible…
David
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles -
[Matt Riley] ” I asked AJA support if this was possible and they told me it wasn’t. Clearly I’ll have to do some experimenting to see if this will work or not.”
I am on my laptop and cannot check that until sunday but I am pretty sure if you
set the secondary SDI channel to 1080 29.97 and the main channel to 1080 23.98 you can output the content both ways.I will try it tomorrow when I get back to my office
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows -
[gary adcock] “I am on my laptop and cannot check that until sunday but I am pretty sure if you
set the secondary SDI channel to 1080 29.97 and the main channel to 1080 23.98 you can output the content both ways.I will try it tomorrow when I get back to my office”
No go for me. The Kona control panel won’t allow for a configuration like this, at least not that I can figure out.
The HDP converter is due for arrival today at some time via Fed Ex, so after I get that installed I’ll post back and let everyone know how it went. Having this device in the pipeline should make things easier (output 1080/23.98 and convert the signal for only the display that requires the different frame rate).
-Matt
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you are correct I cannot do 1080 23.98 and 29.97 at the same time.
HOWEVER….
I do send 720p59.94 to my plasma – and it is the native res of that display is it not?using the conversion tools on my Kona 3 makes this simple.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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The Bravia we are driving is 1080 native, so we want to stay in the 1080 world for that one for sure.
The Panasonic BT-LH1700W monitor is 720 native but I find it handles 1080 rather well. And, it has no problems displaying the 23.98 frame rate, so I’d rather send it the 1080/23.98 from the Kona as well, as opposed to a frame duplicated 720/60.
As somewhat of a wrap-up to all of this, we did receive the AJA HDP converter unit yesterday and installed it. We are liking the results, so the box seems to be doing the right kind of magic for us. Woohoo!
The other workarounds proved to not be viable solutions for us. I had thought about having the displays remove the pull-down from a 1080/29.97 signal from the Kona card, but the Sony monitor did not offer that option after getting out of 480i resolution, so no dice there.
Anyway, the short of it is that after some brief testing yesterday with the HDP adapter we are rather happy. We will be using this setup for a finishing session next week (maiden voyage for the system) so hopefully everything holds up well for that.
-Matt
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[Matt Riley] ” The Bravia we are driving is 1080 native, so we want to stay in the 1080 world for that one for sure.”
I doubt whether you or your clients will see the difference in 720 vs 1080 playout of the same content on a plasma display. the 17″ Panny will always look better.
gary adcock
Studio37
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Matt-
I have a Avid Adrenaline HD, a JVC DT-V24L1D HD Color Grading monitor and a big 46″ 1080p Samsung consumer LCD for clients in the cheap seats. I have the same issue.
The JVC takes all signals thrown at it via SDI. The Hi5 converting SDI to HDMI sending to the Samsung worked for all signals except 23.98psf. I was told by AJA that it is not in the HDMI spec, as the Samsung will display 1080p24 over HDMI from the BluRay just fine.
So I got the HDP instead. Now the Samsung is displaying “Unsupported format” for all signals coming through the HDP. SD and HD. I am using a DVI->HDMI adapter and my installed HDMI cable. Are you using an adapter or a DVI->HDMI cable?
Mike
Wild Pictures
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[Michael Wolf] ” as the Samsung will display 1080p24 over HDMI from the BluRay just fine.”
At this point in time I have NOT seen a 24p Blu Ray disc. The international delivery spec for Blu Ray is 60i – So\ that Blu ray disc you think is 24 is sending out 60i ( that is line doubled to 60p by the HDMI 1.2 spec)
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
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My Panasonic (consumer) monitor is not recognizing a signal from my HDMI cable running out of a KONA LH card.
I’ve tried re-adjusting the output settings in FCP7… and there are 100s options to complicate the matter. The AJA Control panel is not adjustable, the drop down options keep reverting to ‘mac desktop’ output option when I click them, it flickers right back.
Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks!
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[Ron Burgondy] “My Panasonic (consumer) monitor is not recognizing a signal from my HDMI cable running out of a KONA LH card.
“did you by chance read any messages of this 2 year old thread?
this is the first post in this thread in over 2 years.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, ILhttps://blogs.creativecow.net/garyadcock
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php
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