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  • Bill Davis

    February 20, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    In my case, VideoWorks running on my 1984 beige original Mac.
    Yes, I was “editing” stupid black and white sorta animations – but I WAS editing – timing and attaching one construction to another.

    And by that time, I’d already been rudimentarily moving graphic primitives around on my learner Timex Sinclair for a few years. That may be stretching the “editing” concept to the limits. But I think it’s totally fair on the beige 128k original Mac side.

    FWIW.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Scott Witthaus

    February 20, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    AND you are not paying monthly to develop software you will never use….like most of the CC for me….

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
    https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Oliver Peters

    February 20, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    [Bill Davis] “In my case, VideoWorks running on my 1984 beige original Mac.”

    Cool!

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Scott Witthaus

    February 20, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Since Avid came out later than that, just exactly which NLEs are you guys referring to?”

    Where was EMC in that timeline? After Avid? That’s my first NLE experience…

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
    https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Steve Connor

    February 20, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    [Bill Davis] “In my case, VideoWorks running on my 1984 beige original Mac.
    Yes, I was “editing” stupid black and white sorta animations – but I WAS editing – timing and attaching one construction to another.

    And by that time, I’d already been rudimentarily moving graphic primitives around on my learner Timex Sinclair for a few years. That may be stretching the “editing” concept to the limits. But I think it’s totally fair on the beige 128k original Mac side.

    Can I claim animating on “Deluxe Paint” on the Commodore Amiga then? That gets me back to 1985 at least

    \”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka

  • Oliver Peters

    February 20, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “Where was EMC in that timeline? After Avid? That’s my first NLE experience…”

    I think it was around the same time. I believe each claims to be first. Of course, there were numerous tape and disc-based systems before either.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-linear_editing_system

    According to this video by Jeff Krebs, EMC2 was first.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxpQ0vnOVNE

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

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  • Scott Witthaus

    February 20, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “According to this video by Jeff Krebs, EMC2 was first.”

    Man, this sure is a trip down memory lane!

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
    https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Greg Janza

    February 20, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    My memories of the old days of NLE systems involves a lot of crashes. It’s probably impossible for the young kids out there to conceive or imagine but at one time Mac computers weren’t very stable.

    I worked on Media100 systems for a number of years before moving to Avid and those were glitchy days indeed.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Oliver Peters

    February 20, 2018 at 11:57 pm

    [Bill Davis] “running on my 1984 beige original Mac”

    Which seems interesting in the context of this thread. In my mind, the iMac/iMac Pro line is the direct descendent of the original all-in-one Mac.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Laura Scott

    February 21, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “No offense guys, and not to quibble, but 33 years ago is 1985. “

    HA! In another universe, I can do math. You’re right. Whew! Now I don’t feel so old. Started with NLEs in 1995 (or maybe 1994). Analog video in 1985. Film a few years before that.

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