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I’ve figured out who these people are!!!
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[Richard Johnson] “Maybe I am the cat calling the kettle black but I don’t think so.”
I don’t think I’ve ever heard that variation before. I’m used to pot/kettle. Was that a slip, or is it colloquial to where you are from? Serious question, btw; I’m always interested in language.
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Chris,
If you’re serious about enjoying etymology, you owe it to yourself to investigate Michael Quinion’s
World Wide Words site if you haven’t already.Every listserve distribution is an absolute delight for those of us who value language.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Bill Davis] “you owe it to yourself to investigate Michael Quinion’s
World Wide Words site “I have not heard of it, but thanks for the tip. I’ll check it out.
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[Chris Harlan] “[Richard Johnson] “Maybe I am the cat calling the kettle black but I don’t think so.”
I don’t think I’ve ever heard that variation before. I’m used to pot/kettle. Was that a slip, or is it colloquial to where you are from? Serious question, btw; I’m always interested in language.
“MY take on the ‘variation’ was this;
Most modern Kettle’s are shiney (chrome) – read ‘mirror like’
If a black cat see’s its own reflection in the Kettle, the cat thinks the Kettle is black.Why that is a problem I don’t know – maybe someone can share some insight.
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Interesting. The saying I’m familiar with is “the pot calling the kettle black.” This came from a time when both pot and kettle hung over an open fire, which of course blackened both of them. It is sort of a parallel to “people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.”
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[Chris Harlan] “…The saying I’m familiar with is “the pot calling the kettle black.” This came from a time when both pot and kettle hung over an open fire, which of course blackened both of them….”
I think the assumption is that the cat is black too, hence the CAT calling the kettle black. I like that it’s just a bit of a sidestep than the (I think) more common POT version, without being any less resonant, at least for me. As I think about it, more elegant, too. Certainly a little more elegant than “the black cat calling the kettle black,”
And significantly more elegant than “My dog Lenny is black, and it would indicate an egregious lack of self-awareness were he to refer to a kettle as ‘black’ in a way that connoted disparagement solely because the kettle includes ‘blackness’ as one of its attributes.”
Cat calling the kettle black it is, then.
Lenny is currently licking his bollocks in vigorous agreement.
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[Tim Wilson] “My dog Lenny is black, and it would indicate an egregious lack of self-awareness were he to refer to a kettle as ‘black’ in a way that connoted disparagement solely because the kettle includes ‘blackness’ as one of its attributes.””
LOL!
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[Chris Harlan] “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that variation before. I’m used to pot/kettle. Was that a slip, or is it colloquial to where you are from? Serious question, btw; I’m always interested in language.”
It’s not colloquial, it’s a mixed metaphor.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[Richard Johnson] “Point taken Marvin. I had just gotten home from a party where I had a couple beers and probably was a little quick to pass judgement. Forums, by nature, jump around from one topic to the next. I was simply concerned that on occasion it feels like political bickering instead of truly debating.”
There’s nothing wrong with your post Richard. The only thing it was missing was the other POV… the repeat posts from the same fanboys of all things Apple and FCPX who blatantly ignore any criticism and keep telling us how great it will be sometime in the next decade. The parallels between both sides are somewhat scary. I wonder if they both know that “they went to different schools together”.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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I thought I would use Fcpx for my last project. Quickest and most enjoyable £2k I ever earnt. Ha! Popped back to Fcp7 and it was like visiting an old aunt. Thankyou Richard.
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