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  • Andrew Kimery

    February 21, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    I liked how the article gave both a nice birds eye view and dug into the nitty-gritty. Though not being a Lumberjack user or an X user (or even someone that works are shows remotely like his game show) the nitty-gritty wasn’t as meaningful to me as it would be to someone else. ????

    [Bill Davis] “And I know they have products that are designed to translate between the environments with their X to CC product.

    But I don’t know the current status of where they are focused regarding development. “

    I think it boils down to where they want to put their time/energy since it’s just the two of them. For example, a few years ago I was talking with Philip about getting Lumberjack to work with Avid (since it would probably get used on every reality show if that happened) and he didn’t say it couldn’t be done, just that basically AAF was a hurdle they didn’t really want to deal with. PPro might have ended up in the same category of too much effort for too little return.

    [Brian Seegmiller] “How do you implement those smart collections into Premiere Pro CC?”

    PPro’s Search Bins can auto-populate based on metadata such as keywords.

  • Bill Davis

    February 21, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    [andy patterson] “Premiere uses metadata fields but bridge… “

    Call me when they take a jump as big as Apple did with X.

    Toss all the code and re-imagine new possibilities is a bet purely for the future.

    Preserving compatibility with the past, is largely a bet against industry change.

    We’ll see who goes farther, faster – going forward.

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  • Robin S. kurz

    February 21, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    [Brian Seegmiller] “How do you implement those smart collections into Premiere Pro CC?”

    Never mind keyword ranges (multiple, overlapping etc.) or anything along the lines of favorites or rejects etc. etc. etc.

    Droll how some actually think metadata is only relevant and usable when machine generated. Low horizons.

    It’s always so painfully easy to see who here has actually used FCP X and not just seen screenshots and read feature lists online that they felt threatened by — therefore in fact know what they’re talking about — and who is just pulling random brain-farts out of nether regions, trolling forums that are of no relevance to them otherwise. Just to justify some contrary personal choice. As if anyone cared. Amusing, too, how that threat can come from just mere software. ???????? Oh well. comes with the territory I spose! Dats da internetz fo’ yaz.

    – RK

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  • Brian Seegmiller

    February 21, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Robin, since I have to use PP at my work I was wondering how to use Bridge and Premiere together as far has key-wording is concerned. I already know it is not even close to what FCP X can do, but just trying to learn how Bridge and Premiere work together. I don’t know if you were referring to me as not using FCP X, but believe me, I LOVE FCP X and if you look me up you will discover I am a staunch advocate for FCP X. That being said, I have to use PP at work and am trying to make it as less painful as possible.

  • Brian Seegmiller

    February 21, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    So, how do you use Bridge and Premiere together so I can see keywords in Premiere after setting them in Bridge?

  • Steve Connor

    February 21, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    [Brian Seegmiller] ” I LOVE FCP X and if you look me up you will discover I am a staunch advocate for FCP X”

    Won’t stop you getting the “Wrath of Kurtz” I’m afraid 🙂

  • Robin S. kurz

    February 21, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    [Brian Seegmiller] “I don’t know if you were referring to me as not using FCP X…”

    If you are, then clearly not, no. ????

    (nor was I otherwise ????)

    – RK

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  • Andrew Kimery

    February 21, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    [andy patterson] “remiere Pro does not have a timeline index but we can find content in the timeline. “

    Meant to mention this in my previous post but I forgot. A few days ago Andy Mees posted a screenshot of a Timeline Index feature he built in PPro and is noodling around with.

  • Andy Patterson

    February 22, 2017 at 2:30 am

    [Andrew Kimery] “Meant to mention this in my previous post but I forgot. A few days ago Andy Mees posted a screenshot of a Timeline Index feature he built in PPro and is noodling around with.”

    Interesting and thanks for posting. That kind of proves my point that Premiere has a good foundation for metadata. I guess it is hard for certain people to accept that fact. I do wish there was a small thumbnail image for the content in Premiere’s (Andy’s) timeline index. Just a thought.

  • Andy Patterson

    February 22, 2017 at 2:52 am

    [Robin S. Kurz] “It’s always so painfully easy to see who here has actually used FCP X and not just seen screenshots and read feature lists online that they felt threatened by — therefore in fact know what they’re talking about — and who is just pulling random brain-farts out of nether regions, trolling forums that are of no relevance to them otherwise. Just to justify some contrary personal choice. As if anyone cared. Amusing, too, how that threat can come from just mere software. ???????? Oh well. comes with the territory I spose! Dats da internetz fo’ yaz.”

    You are the pot calling the kettle black Robin. You should have been able to accept my prior posting without issue. Why couldn’t you? For the record this is not a FCPX lovefest forum nor is it a form to simply trash Avid and Premiere. It is a forum to discuss the pros and cons of all NLE related software and hardware. If you notice I have stated many times FCPX is a good program. How many time have you stated Premiere is a good program? I have stated FCPX has good metadata. Having said that I see many FCPX users with a need to bad mouth Avid and Premiere. Why is that Robin? Where have you seen myself or anyone else talk negative about FCPX? Who has ever stated FCPX has an old outdated metadata system? Who has ever claimed Premiere Pro is moving into the future and FCPX is stuck in the past? Simply stating Adobe is no stranger to metadata should not upset you? Why did it Robin? I never stated the keyword collection of Bridge is the same as in FCPX but Apple did not invent the concept of keyword collections? I am simply pointing out the obvious. What upsets you may enlighten others.

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