Is This Logic?

[Gregor Queck]

https://www.apple.com/logicpro/specs/:
“(19GB of optional content available via in-app download)”

“Clip Connections keep secondary material in place while trimming and moving the Primary Storyline. Choose to hide or display Clip Connections in the timeline.”

I can’t see no clip connections or a primary storyline, so maybe we see here LogicProX plan B.

[Ben Scott]

hiding clip connections doesnt turn them off

it hides the little line that represents the connection

and that great feature is in the pop up window for project view down bottom right of FCPX timeline

good to know the software your criticizing

[Gregor Queck]

:=) please read title: Logic Pro, not FinalCutProX :=)

[Christian Schumacher]

[Ben Scott] ” good to know the software your criticizing”

I was talking about Logic and inferred that was a feature somewhat different.
BTW, I don’t own FCPX but I had worked on it, is that allowed here?
Gregor has confirmed that there’s no such a feature in Logic. Yet.
Would that make it from FCPX? Can we even discuss it?

[Mark Bein]

Pssst – You get 19 GB additional Content with the Purchase of “Mainstage” ($30)

But lets rile everyone up first 😉

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Mark,

There seems to be some discussion of this in the comments to the linked articles.

I believe the way it will work is continued updates via “Software Update” for current installs; App Store updates for new purchases.

Or this might be the “end of support” for the version you have and you only get updates if you upgrade (ie purchase new).

Franz.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

I thought that the following comment, from user “apoclypse” at ars technica was particularly germane:

https://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/12/logic-pro-coming-to-mac-app-store-logic-express-dropped-in-the-shuffle.ars?comments=1#comments-bar

Logic’s UI was overhauled for version 8 and the ground work was laid out for 64-bit support but the core of the application is still stuck in the 90’s. Logic has bugs in it that have been there for years that haven’t gotten addressed. The way Logic handles the audio buffer is old-school at best and there is need of some serious revisiting of the AU implementation to support or match what is going on in the VST3/Cubase world at the moment. Not to mention that Logic still isn’t using the more modern apis that Apple introduced over the last few years like Grand Central (clearly since not all things in Logic use all cores and Logic multi-core performance is generally shoddy at best), or opencl. FCPX on the other hand has been rebuilt from the ground up to use these new apis and technologies and it is the better for it.

Right now Logic still has to reload the engine when switching between multiple open projects, the same for when you change the buffer settings. Every other DAW I use (Reason, Live, Studio One, REAPER), can change the buffer size at will without having to wait until the tracks reload their plugins. Logic in general is pretty crashtastic, the AU-bridge crashes consistently. logic still relies too heavily on the environment for simple things like adding an arpeggiator to a track. Why the hell is the pitch and time machine still a post process? I love Logic, I have been using it since version 5, but I’m tired of having to deal with the crashes and and silly bugs that haven’t been addressed in years. Especially when you have the other DAW makers actually stepping up their game. Studio One is awesome and has features that we have yet to see in Logic. Cubase has some really great features that I would love to see in Logic, Even AVID is getting their head in the game (though they are extremely late).

What makes Logic popular is price. Frankly, Logic is the best bang for buck DAW on the market, at $200 its a not brainer for Mac musicians. That still doesn’t make it great, its just okay at what it does. Apple seems to be fine with middle of the raod feature implementations (Flex while cool as a UI concept has crappy timestretch algo’s imo, tends to breakup faster than Live’s implementation, imo).

Those observations ring true (in both their appreciation and frustration) – anyone who has used any of Apple’s pro apps through the years can, I’m sure, recognize certain themes.

Franz.

[Craig Seeman]

I’d guess that Logic is getting a ground up rewrite. I suspect Apple moved the current version of Logic to the App Store because the new X version is taking longer. They may have learned from FCPX not to pull an existing product for a replacement until it’s ready. In the meantime they didn’t want to holdup the shift to App Store distribution.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Craig Seeman] “I’d guess that Logic is getting a ground up rewrite.”

Craig,

I suspect they’re trying to get rid of those difficult, inflexible “tracks” as well as re-branding the concept of “busses” as “roles”. That kind of work can take longer than expected.

Franz.

[Neil Goodman]

thye better leave logic alone. Id rather no more devlopment than change it all together. Id hate to have to use pro tools.

its currently 64 bit, what more do we need.

Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal