Is there a cheaper DVCPRO HD deck?

[Blub06]

I did get your point the first time regarding frame accurate insert cutting, I remember with version 1.25 of FCP they said it was hit or miss with the insert function. I used a Sony A500 digibeta and I was always able to get it to the frame.

Things change, sometimes not for the best and so I can imagine that a newer deck could be less than frame accurate for the insert. My dilemma, (not much of one) I do require frame accurate with out a question this is a must. But, for what I do if I cant get reliable frame accurate inserts it simply means I have to make the change on the timeline and output the whole show for each change.

For the mastering I don

[Toke]

Ultrium3 deck costs only $5k, but you can’t watch the videos with it…
Alternative would be browsing quality h.264 archive online and “camera originals” on ultrium.

[Jim]

I was wondering if folks have considered distributing in HDV? Although it has not been released yet, I believe the JVC deck (BR-HD50U)has serial deck(RS-422A interface) control for frame accurate editing? The input are composite, Y/C & 1394. Would it be possible to output DVC100 via FW to HDV?

Thanks,

jim cunningham
cunninghamprod@sbcglobal.net

[Barry Green]

No, the JVC deck only inputs HDV via firewire. You’d need some sort of DV100-to-HDV conversion system. (of course, most NLE’s will allow that conversion).

But then you’re faced with the incompatibility of HDV with HDV — you’d have to pick which flavor of HDV to support. JVC decks won’t play Sony tapes, so if you want to distribute 1080i or 1080p content and the customer only has JVC equipment, you’re dead in the water. Sony decks will play back JVC tapes via analog, so you could theoretically distribute 720p content that way.

HD distribution is likely to just have to wait until there’s an installed base of HD-DVD or blu-ray players.

The only “compatible” way to distribute content now would be to burn a WMV-HD file on a regular (or dual-layer) DVD, and have people play it on their computers. That’s a VASTLY larger market base than the HDV-owning market. If you wanted to distribute HD content on an HDV tape, you’d be limited to the 25,000-35,000 or so people worldwide who currently have Sony HDV cameras or JVC HD1xx cameras. But if you burned it to a Windows Media high-def DVD, everybody with a PC and Windows XP could play it. That’s tens of millions of households, a far more viable market base.

They just couldn’t play it on their TV is all… they’d have to watch it on computer…

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[Jim]

Barry;

“JVC decks won’t play Sony tapes, so if you want to distribute 1080i or 1080p content and the customer only has JVC equipment, you’re dead in the water. Sony decks will play back JVC tapes via analog, so you could theoretically distribute 720p content that way.”

According to the JVC brochure,
“Multi-format output/Cross-converter function.
A sophisticated cross-converter function enables output not only of
720p siginals, but also 1080i, 480/576p and 480/576i sigals… etc.”

So it would seem that the JVC deck will play back the Sony HDV.

Of course, we won’t know for sure until we actually see the deck.

Jim

[Toke]

[Barry Green] “That’s tens of millions of households, a far more viable market base.
They just couldn’t play it on their TV is all… they’d have to watch it on computer…”

But how many of those tens of million have their pc hooked on a hdTV display?
According AVS forum at least a few I suppose…

[Barry Green]

[Jim Cunningham] “”Multi-format output/Cross-converter function.
A sophisticated cross-converter function enables output not only of
720p siginals, but also 1080i, 480/576p and 480/576i sigals… etc.”

So it would seem that the JVC deck will play back the Sony HDV.”

It is worded confusingly, but no, unfortunately, that has nothing to do with the Sony tape format. What that’s saying is that when you’re playing a JVC tape, it can output it as a 720p signal, or it can convert it to be 1080i, or PAL, etc, on the analog component connections. But it has nothing to do with playing a 1080i tape.

The brochure clearly states that the JVC deck cannot play Sony-format HDV tapes at all. Says it at the bottom of the table on page 16: “Tapes recorded in HDV1080i format cannot be played back by GY-DH100 and BR-HD50”.

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[Jim]

Barry:

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I actually needed to use a magifying glass to see
text at the bottom of pg 16.

Jim