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  • Oliver Peters

    July 8, 2017 at 12:03 am

    [Bill Davis] “I have a modest 5000 or so photos from the past few years that I’ve edited/enhanced via Lightroom.
    And those hundreds of hours of work are now dead to me. “

    Why? Couldn’t you simply have exported the adjusted images as TIFFs or JPEGs? You would still have the original, unaltered images in addition to the adjusted ones. What’s the issue?

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    July 9, 2017 at 2:31 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Why? Couldn’t you simply have exported the adjusted images as TIFFs or JPEGs? You would still have the original, unaltered images in addition to the adjusted ones. What’s the issue?”

    Oh I see.

    The hundreds and hundreds of hours I spent in MY chair conceiving and executing changes to MY photos – searching and amending the metadata until I was satisfied. That metadata arrangement entered into and codified into MY personal work files through MY time in the chair in front of MY tools

    Because of how they decided to run their business at the executive level – THEY get to gatekeep the ability to functional access and use my work forever more.

    You may be fine with the idea that the price of using Adobe Products is agreeing to give up my rights to my creative efforts – but I pretty much don’t.

    I suspect we will always see this differently.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Oliver Peters

    July 9, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Oh I see.

    The hundreds and hundreds of hours I spent in MY chair conceiving and executing changes to MY photos – searching and amending the metadata until I was satisfied.”

    None of that answered the substance of my question. It’s just a rant. And Lightroom was available for sale. Knowing that you hated subscription so much, why didn’t you simply get the paid version instead of the subscription version?

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    July 9, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    Bill,

    FWIW – did you try this?

    https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/serialize-lightroom-cc-trial-to-activate-as-lightroom-6.html

    I haven’t tried it, but according to various forums posts, it apparently works with any Lightroom version. So you could downgrade from CC to 6 and preserve all of your work.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Herb Sevush

    July 10, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “I’d be curious about the principles, if not the implementation, that you’d like to see honored in the titler.”

    The new text tool is a partial port of the text tools from Photoshop and a good example of why I never do CG in Photoshop. It lacks any of the video CG specific tools that I need. I need one button centering in both horizontal and vertical axis. I need a command to distribute lines of text evenly top to bottom. I need crawl and roll. The old text tool was limited in some ways but the new tool is chaos, plus even the legacy version of the old title tool no longer opens up text templates, so all my previous text templates are now useless.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
    \”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

  • Andy Patterson

    July 10, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “The old text tool was limited in some ways but the new tool is chaos, plus even the legacy version of the old title tool no longer opens up text templates, so all my previous text templates are now useless.”

    I liked the old titling tool and feel as though the latest Premiere Pro updates were horrible. As usual I found more bugs with the latest update.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    July 10, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “plus even the legacy version of the old title tool no longer opens up text templates”

    For different reasons to yours, the discontinuity with the legacy version is very bad news for us here too, in particular because you can no longer export legacy .prti files.

    I’m happy to sacrifice functionality for something very significantly better. This is not something very significantly better by any stretch of the imagination.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Andy Patterson

    July 10, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell]
    [Herb Sevush] “plus even the legacy version of the old title tool no longer opens up text templates”

    For different reasons to yours, the discontinuity with the legacy version is very bad news for us here too, in particular because you can no longer export legacy .prti files.

    I’m happy to sacrifice functionality for something very significantly better. This is not something very significantly better by any stretch of the imagination.”

    I have let Adobe know I like the old titling tool better than the new one. If we all let them know that I can only hope Adobe continues to keep the old titling tool and allow integration with the new titling tool. I am not saying the new titling tools is horrible but what we had already was awesome. I had to prove to the haters that the titling tool in Premiere Pro can do a lot. The new titling tool is limited but the haters praised it. Go figure?

    https://youtu.be/j_88Dqiia94

  • Bill Davis

    July 11, 2017 at 6:20 am

    Nope. I’m gone from Adobe now. I feel there’s more value in time spent with the much newer faster and cleaner code of Affinity Photo, Pixelmator and whatever new stuff follows them.

    Heck, whole awesome programs are to be had for the cost of 4-5 months of rental – so it’s time to look forward, not back. I’ve already opened my top 200 raw images in them and started learning the new tools.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Robin S. kurz

    July 11, 2017 at 8:40 am

    [Simon Ubsdell] “… the discontinuity with the legacy version is very bad news for us here too, in particular because you can no longer export legacy .prti files.”

    Wait… OMG… so you’re saying… they KILLED the titler??!!

    ????

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