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Is Apple Being Misleading About Native Editing Support?
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Given that Sony rolled for years with re-wrapping as the solution for FCS compatibility (equally marketed as XDCAM compatible), there is a high likelihood that what you see is what you get (re-wrap). Makes it a real pain to manage your data because the re-wrap solution basically doubles your data footprint. That’s a big deal if you are in a place with multiple shooters in the field every day. It adds up quickly and makes database management a bit of a chore.
Calibratedsoftware.com makes an excellent product for working with TRUE native XDCAM footage. Very handy in the way it interacts with QT without the need for re-wrapping footage. Not so sure how it works with FCPX though, been too busy installing PPro and ditching FCS. Will say that PPro does deal with XDCAM in a TRUE native manner, not this re-wrap BS.
Marvin Holdman
Production Manager
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I’ve used a similar component called MXF4mac for all of my MXF needs. It allows working with MXF footage natively in the application with no rewrap. It isn’t working with FCPX, currently, which isn’t as fun.
Jeremy
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Sony has had a plug in as well for FCP7 although they didn’t publicize much I think. This imported the .mp4 directly
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Ian Cook from Sony mentioned this 3 months ago in FCPX forum
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[Craig Seeman] “Ian Cook from Sony mentioned this 3 months ago in FCPX forum
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/142/876930“Heh heh! Nice one.
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This was FCP7 version. They charged $99 for it so it wasn’t a freebee.
Cinemon
https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-xdcamexsite/cat-accessories/resource.solutions.bbsccms-assets-micro-xdcamex-solutions-cinemonmp4.shtml -
[Craig Seeman] “This was FCP7 version. They charged $99 for it so it wasn’t a freebee.
Cinemon
https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-xdcamexsite/cat-accessories/resource.sol...
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and you could only get it in the USA“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Anyone tried this one yet? It says it supports Lion. Of course, at $899, it should rub my feet while as well.
Marvin Holdman
Production Manager
Tourist Network
8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
Panama City Beach, Fl
phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
cell 850-585-9667
skype username – vidmarv -
[Kevin Patrick] “[Rafael Amador] “drag&drop from a card to the time-line without other intermediate process”
I agree.
Adobe makes this very clear one their website.
https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html#Supportedvideoformats
To quote: Import and edit content from Sony XDCAM and XDCAM 50 cameras directly, without rewrapping or transcoding.
There’s a big difference between how PP and FCP X handles the same format.
There’s also a big difference between how Adobe and Apple explain this on their own websites. Apple requires you to not only read the fine print, but to read all the text in that section. And even then you need to understand what they mean by additional Sony software. (and you can use more than just Sony’s software to handle this)
Apple could have been as clear as Adobe, but chose not to.”
Well said Kevin (and Rafael). On a personal level, I have always found this frustrating when speaking to the less informed editor because they maintain that this workflow is native. However, as an Adobe employee (and professional) you just have to try to present the information and move on. 😉
When I present, sometimes I will take an iphone 640×480 .mov, some file based media, a Canon 5D clip playing off of the CF card and a RED 4k file all on the same timeline to illustrate what native really is. That gets ‘no-rewrap’ idea across.
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[Craig Seeman] “FCPX has hooks that allows camera manufacturers to develop direct plugin support.”
Well that is not ‘native’. Native means inherent, or inclusive.
Needing a third party plugin would be neither. To claim a native capacity, while requiring a third party plugin to achieve this so called ‘native’ capacity is misleading.
This new shift to heavy use of third party plugins to make an app work as advertised is a convenient way to ‘blame shift’ for lack of development, bugs, or poor performance. I guess you get what you pay for with a $299 app.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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