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Interview with Randy Ubillos and How I came to enjoy FCP X
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” I am hip to keyword and keyword collections. Could you do a short tutorial/demo between the two programs for your workflow?”
I’m sure most people by now have seen Thomas Grove Carter’s demos. You don’t think that is a good account of how fast and efficient keywording can be in FCPX? I’m not sure anyone could do it much better.
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Thomas Grove Carter’s demonstration (he’s demonstrated this multiple times with different projects) is precisely what I had in mind. Considering these are arguably THE best display of the power of keywording, smart collections, favorites, rejects, etc. I see no point in taking the time to create another demo in an attempt to convince someone who clearly is not open to being convinced, despite his requests for more demos. And Thomas Grove Carter’s approach may not be the best approach for an interview, or a documentary, where connected clips and secondary storylines can be integral components. Different projects require different organizational methods. There is no single demo that can appropriately cover how to organize every type of project, taking into account every editor’s preferences, and every possible ecosystem that the project lives in. However, preferences aside, there are objectively things that FCP X does do better than every other NLE, and organization is arguably an area where FCP X shines. I would be shocked if anyone can accomplish what Thomas Grove Carter did, as quickly, efficiently and effectively, in any other NLE. This does not mean that every other NLE is garbage, it’s just a reminder that FCP X really excels at some things. Avid currently has better collaboration. Premiere Pro has better key framing. Resolve has better grading. They all have strengths. This endless cycle of “yeah, but…” is so tiresome. If you don’t like it don’t use it. But learn how to use it before you trash it, and then, maybe there’s no reason to trash it in the first place (because everything you trash is loved by many others).
Gabriel Spaulding
Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
Videographer | Video Editor | Motion DesignerHow Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
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[Steve Connor] “I really don’t think this forum is about people making demo videos, generally here on the COW we trust what people say based on their experience ☺
“Amen. Could there be anything more boring than demo videos? If people haven’t figured out what the benefits of each NLE are by this point, them there’s little hope for them.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[Neil Goodman] “[Steve Connor] “I really don’t think this forum is about people making demo videos, generally here on the COW we trust what people say based on their experience ☺
”plus, who’s got the time to make demo videos? we are editors after all.”
True, so extra kudos to people like Simon Ubsdell who take the time and effort to make really good demos. ☺
Shawn
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[andy patterson] “keyword collections and favorites were in Adobe’s Bridge long before FCPX was released”
Yes, it was and I was deep into using that for all media assets back when it first came out.
However, things went awry with files losing their metadata and things got sour at my post house.
I did my best to keep users applying the data but after a few failed projects we just gave up on it.Now years later I tried it again but we became RED centric and that did not work at all with Adobe Bridge.
FCPX has been the most helpful at getting metadata attached to all files used.
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[Shawn Miller] “True, so extra kudos to people like Simon Ubsdell who take the time and effort to make really good demos. ☺”
Yes definitely, but we seem to have lost him for the moment! Hope all is OK with him
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[Gabriel Spaulding] “I have yet to see a FCP X user jump on an Adobe forum and bash Premiere Pro, yet it’s rare to find a FCP X forum that hasn’t been polluted by an acrimonious Adobe user. People are critical, and not always at the right time or in the right place. I honestly don’t see how one can paint Adobe as the victim without wearing a smirk.”
I never stated or even implied that any FCPX user trolls the Adobe forums. That is a straw-man argument. Please don’t use anymore. Having said that. I have seen several FCPX meetings where the presenters take a smack or two at Adobe and Avid and the audience cheers on. That is reality. I don’t see that happen at Adobe or Avid meetings. Not to mention the countless times I hear it implied that Avid and Premiere Pro are old an outdated at the cow.
[Gabriel Spaulding] “I have not incorporated Premiere Pro into my current workflow because I dislike using it so much. This does not mean it isn’t capable. This does not mean I don’t recognize its strengths. This does not mean I wouldn’t or couldn’t use it if requested. I just personally find it cluttered and clunky, though it’s not worth my time to try and convince the rest of the world that it’s cluttered and clunky. Many people feel differently about it, and I respect that they have their own legitimate reasons for using it.”
That is kind of my point. If you don’t use Premiere Pro daily how can you claim FCPX is a vastly superior program? That same claim is made daily by several FCPX users and they don’t use Premiere Pro either.
How many times do you see a Premiere Pro editor say Premiere Pro is vastly superior to FCPX? How many times do you see Avid users say Avid is vastly superior to FCPX?
I am not a fan of FCPX’s GUI nor are a lot of people but we don’t say the GUI of FCPX is cringe worthy or hideous. That has been said about Premiere Pro many times. The titling system of Premiere Pro had the same bad rap until I proved that to be false.
[Gabriel Spaulding] “Having seen your last demo comparisons on this site, which had I think the unintended consequence of NOT making things any clearer, I think you would do well to remember your final statement:”
That is not my demo that I posted. It is just a video I seen on YouYube.
I have both FCPX and Premiere Pro. Have I ever claimed Premiere Pro is vastly superior to FCPX? I like using Premiere Pro but that is my preference. I think FCPX is a good program. I have stated that many times. Perhaps from now on maybe the over use of FCPX is vastly superior and much more flexible and allows me to edit in ways not possible in any other NLE will come to an end. For some people FCPX is not the best option. It is a NLE like all the rest. It has strengths and weaknesses just like the rest of them.
Instead of stating FCPX is leap and bounds better than Premiere Pro why not just state FCPX works better for my needs?
[Gabriel Spaulding] “I have not incorporated Premiere Pro into my current workflow because I dislike using it so much.”
As I have stated I have both FCPX and Premiere Pro and I don’t have the same feeling about Premiere Pro. What does that tell us? Do you kind of see my point?
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“That is a straw-man argument. Please don’t use anymore.”
It has been my experience for years. Please do not tell me what I am allowed to report.
” If you don’t use Premiere Pro daily how can you claim FCPX is a vastly superior program?”
I used Premiere Pro every single day for a year at my previous job, while using FCP X for freelance work on the side. Premiere Pro has not changed very much since then, and I keep up with it so that I can dive back in if requested. I never claimed that FCP X is a vastly superior program. If you think that then you are cherry picking. Re-read my post(s) until you understand what was actually written.
“Instead of stating FCPX is leap and bounds better than Premiere Pro why not just state FCPX works better for my needs?”
FCP X does work better for my needs. I have already said that. And FCP X is leaps and bounds better than Premiere Pro —at some things. If you interpret “some” as “all” then you have a comprehension problem.
“As I have stated I have both FCPX and Premiere Pro and I don’t have the same feeling about Premiere Pro. What does that tell us? Do you kind of see my point?”
You have both and you like one more than the other, but you’re not content with liking Premiere Pro you have a curious desire to constantly validate your preference by comparing it to FCP X and asking FCP X users to justify their decisions. I could not have been more clear that all of the NLEs have their own strengths and weaknesses, that what an individual prefers to use is irrelevant, and that what you use makes absolutely no difference to me. What exactly is the problem? And why is it so important for everyone to understand your point?
Gabriel Spaulding
Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
Videographer | Video Editor | Motion DesignerHow Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
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[andy patterson] “we don’t say the GUI of FCPX is cringe worthy or hideous. “
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t you call it “Fisher Price” ?
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[Gabriel Spaulding] “”Instead of stating FCPX is leap and bounds better than Premiere Pro why not just state FCPX works better for my needs?”
FCP X does work better for my needs. I have already said that. And FCP X is leaps and bounds better than Premiere Pro —at some things. If you interpret “some” as “all” then you have a comprehension problem.”
Is it a comprehension problem? Reread you own quote below.
[Gabriel Spaulding] ” Having used both, organizing footage in FCP X is leaps and bounds faster and more flexible than it is in Premiere Pro.”
Or you could say vastly superior. I simply want to see proof from you. Not Thomas Grover Carter.
[Gabriel Spaulding] “You have both and you like one more than the other, but you’re not content with liking Premiere Pro you have a curious desire to constantly validate your preference by comparing it to FCP X and asking FCP X users to justify their decisions.”
That is incorrect. I don’t want FCPX users to justify their decision. I do want them to justify their comments. Unless people actually demonstrate how FCPX is vastly superior for their needs it is just useless rhetoric. Keep in mind I am not doubting FCPX is better but I need proof of this.
[Gabriel Spaulding] ” I could not have been more clear that all of the NLEs have their own strengths and weaknesses, that what an individual prefers to use is irrelevant, and that what you use makes absolutely no difference to me.”
They do have strengths and weakness. I am talking about what was written below.
[Gabriel Spaulding] ” Having used both, organizing footage in FCP X is leaps and bounds faster and more flexible than it is in Premiere Pro.”
All I want is proof of this. In the video link I posted it was Premiere Pro that proved to be much more flexible than FCPX for Scott’s needs. That is kind of my point. Once again you don’t see Premiere Pro users claiming Premiere Pro is leaps and bounds better than FCPX or that Premiere Pro is more flexible than FCPX. Scott in his video stated for him Premiere was more flexible for his needs. Keep in mind he also demonstrated why. That is what I want to see from the FCPX users. Is that to much to asks?
[Gabriel Spaulding] “What exactly is the problem? And why is it so important for everyone to understand your point?”
I would like to see you edit with Premiere Pro and FCPX. I say that because when I see this done by a FCPX users I can easily find ways in which they could speed up their workflow when using Premiere Pro. Let me ask you this. Is it possible a Premiere Pro editor could edit as proficient as you when you use FCPX? Would FCPX be leaps and bounds better than Premiere Pro or would both programs require a great wealth of knowledge to use them 100% efficiently? Keep in mind I have never stated FCPX is better or worse than Avid or that FCPX is better or worse than Premiere Pro. I will say there is a lot of bias info on the internet. I prefer honest criticisms. I would like to see more honest criticism in these forums.
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