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Ty Ford
August 1, 2012 at 7:23 pmRichard,
Wow the DSLR has a headphone out jack!
That’s actually sort of impressive.You might want to check to see if your headphones were passing the noise and you missed it.
I use Sony MDR7506 headphones on shoots because they are very sensitive.
Regards,
Ty Ford
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Richard Kuenneke
August 1, 2012 at 7:32 pmI said I played it back – I did not say I listened to it with headphones – nor did I say there was a headphone jack on the DSLR.
Rich
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Peter Groom
August 2, 2012 at 8:21 amI agree with TY.
DSLR’s make pretty pictures, and pretty awful sound. The audio is an reluctant afterthought on most.
1) Horrible 3.5mm jack inputs (makes me lose sleep the thought of a mini jack)
2) Rubbish mic pre amp and input stage electronics
3) Poor noise floor figures
4) “Often” fixed Automatic gain control
5) Insufficient metering to worsen the noise floor issues
6) Poor monitoring output facilities
7) Operators who arent really interested or thinking about the audio until it becomes a problem.7 Good reasons NOT to do it.
Solution. If you want to shoot pictures on a dslr, put your mics through a mixer, feed the dslr with a scratch track for syncing purposes and record real sound on a real sound recorder. Sync in the edit or use pluraleyes if its a big project.For the record, Whilst Im head of Sound in our company, NO ONE will be recording audio on a DSLR until Im shown a camera that had 100% addressed ALL of the issues 1-6.
Peter
Post Production Dubbing Mixer
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Peter Groom
August 2, 2012 at 8:22 amRichard
Did you ever actually post this audio. As your client has rejected the re shoot, you should let us have a go with tools way beyond FCP abilities.
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Richard Kuenneke
August 2, 2012 at 11:52 amPeter: The entire reason for posting my message was to see if the problem could be fixed. But I dropped the idea after it was suggested broad white noise/static cannot be removed without causing harm to the rest of the audio. I’d love to get someone’s opinion as to whether the file can be fixed or not.
If you can send me your email address, I’ll forward the clip to you.
richard (at) oakviewroadmedia.com
Rich
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Ty Ford
August 2, 2012 at 1:21 pmRichard,
Just so you know, broadband noise and/or white noise is actually a pretty good target for noise reduction as long as it’s constant in frequency and volume. It’s when things get a bit wiggly that the difficulty occurs.
Regards,
Ty Ford
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Peter Groom
August 6, 2012 at 2:56 pmHi Ty
I fixed all of Richards audio for him.
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Ty Ford
August 6, 2012 at 4:34 pmPeter,
What a nice thing to do! I’m sure he appreciates it.
Regards,
Ty

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Richard Kuenneke
August 6, 2012 at 4:55 pmMany thanks to Mr. Groom for his heroic repair of my audio problem. I cannot thank him enough for his help after other determined such a problem couldn’t be fixed. The client approved and all is well.
Now I’m trying to figure out how I can repay the favor.
Rich
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