International Spec and Standards

[John Grote, jr.]

And just like the real world, I expect a level of professionalism.

J. Grote, Jr.

[Maurice Jansen]

there is only ONE stupid question.
and that’s the ONE not being asked.

although the client is king we can help each other out in this typical daily question.
there is only one who can tell what they want and that’s the client.
and of coarse you need to cantact them first.
but they some time’s have a complicated /weird way of doing this.

often the solution is one little checkbox in your software. or a menu setting in your VTR.
but you can search for this for ever.

in the Compression techniques forum

there is a topic which always stands on top named
How to get FASTEST compression help – PLEASE READ

maybe there should be a forum and a PleaseRead thread for
deliverySpec’s

greet
Maurice

[Nick Griffin]

John –

First, sorry in taking so long to reply. I was out most of yesterday producing a voice-over session in a language I don’t speak. Big fun.

Second, and in answer to your query, I think Bob was over-reacting, thinking he was answering yet another of the newbie questions we frequently see on the COW. Not that there’s anything wrong with asking questions and everyone has to start somewhere, but some of the posts are so ridiculously basic or obvious that some of the experts can be easily frustrated by the barrage. We’ve all seen them: “After I get the monitor plugged in how do I get Stephen Spielberg to know that I’m ready to edit his next movie?”

Personally I don’t think that’s the category into which your initial post falls. What I read was the start of a broad discussion on what to expect when attempting to work with standards in different parts of the world. Hopefully some light has been shed on this topic. Bob is blunt, but in his own way he got straight to the point.

[Bob Zelin]

John Grote, Jr. writes –
For if it wasn’t for the other people that wanted to help some of us along, I wouldn’t be 22 years in this business.

REPLY –
it comes to me in a flash ! John, didn’t I work with you at MTI in New York about 20 years ago ? Weren’t you one of the engineering tech’s that worked with me ? You know what everyone at MTI was like. You know what everyone in the “biz” in NY is like. Are you not living in NY anymore ? Everyone was like me. We both went thru hell at MTI. Did you become nice over the years ?

Bob Zelin
ps – I help people on these forums night and day, every day, holidays, nights, and weekends. If I yell at them during the process, and that’s not acceptable, all I can say is “pay me”.

[Baz Leffler]

Bob – if you changed and became a ‘nice’ guy they could name a country after you and call it, maybe… New Zelin?

Baz

What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

[Bob Zelin]

I am convinced that I know John Grote, Jr. I recall him telling me that you could pronounce his last name Grot, or Grotie. We worked with true New York ballbusters, including Carlo Delea, and Joe Mahedy. Every day was torture. You eventually get used to it – and toughen up. Of course, this was just one of countless places in NY that were torture. The post facilities were NOTHING compared to the film editorial houses, where it was an “honor” to work, and you were made aware of this every day you were there. Ball busting every day. Every company. And this, of course, was nothing compared to the humiliation of those that worked at advertising agencies in NY. This is why New Yorkers (and plenty of other hard to survive cities) produce some of the top people. The weak just get run over.

Now, John Grote was a very good engineering tech. But perhaps he has “had enough” after 22 years, and wants people to be “nice”.
Well, you picked the wrong business John.

Bob Zelin