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iMac Pro thoughts
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[Shane Ross] “I wonder why that is? WHy did they go “NO! You can’t do this anymore…we don’t like it.” So stupid.”
I don’t know, but some thoughts would be design, power consumption, heat, how many *should* they include, OS support/accommodation, etc. And, of course, because they can. ☺
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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BTW – here’s a design concept (not Apple’s):
https://pascaleggert.de/macpro.html
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Shane Ross] “No post facility or online bay has an iMac at it’s core. Online has demands that like machines with slots, or that are rack mountable. iMacs don’t offer that. If I hear of one in use I’ll let you know. But iMacs are mainly single user edit stations that are self contained.
“Not always true. At the place I worked at last – all the edit bays (30) were Imacs hooked up to an Isis. The finishing team was on Imacs/Isis and only the colorist was on a cheesegrater for big jobs that we produced and shot. The rest of the stuff was theatrical so they would get finished footage eventually w/o the need to color. Those 2015 imacs maxed out are very capable for offline and online and obviously things have only gotten better.
The place I’m at now is all cheesegraters – probably 60 something bays. There’s wires all over the place and they are slow as molasses in comparison to the imacs at the old gig. Dont even get me started on PPro performance on them. Avid runs just ok.
Id hope if a new tower came out from apple we’d jump all over it.
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One area we have seen definite differences between the iMac Pro and 2013 Mac Pro is with native RED files in Premiere Pro. The iMac Pro is definitely better and allows our editors to work natively, while the Mac Pro tends to choke and is best when we use a proxy workflow.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “best when we use a proxy workflow.”
IMHO I enforce this workflow with all RED projects.
Lugging around features is a pain with RED since you have to hang on to all data.
Sure you can export to R3D from RCX (trimmed, etc..) but that just adds more work.
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[Eric Santiago] “IMHO I enforce this workflow with all RED projects.”
Oh, I completely agree. But it’s less of an issue with TV spots. My point, however, was the direct performance comparison between the two machines.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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I can’t compare my 10-core iMac (Radeon Pro Vega 64 with 16GB of HMB2 and 64GB of RAM) to a 2013 Mac Pro or current 5k iMac because I don’t have one of those, but I have run a number of tests comparing it to my maxed out late 2013 iMac. In every case rendering (Motion and After Effects) is 2x faster or more, and the actual experience of using those apps is completely different, especially in Motion where I am seeing realtime playback with much more going on than I would have ever attempted on the iMac. Where I had to create proxy media to edit 3 angles of 4k multicam (GH5 and Fs7 files) in FCP X on the iMac I can edit them all natively with the iMac Pro —even when KeyFlow Pro is simultaneously creating thousands of preview files in the background. Keeping FCP X Library and cache files on the internal SSD I am seeing drastic improvements in the speed of audio waveform drawing. I can tell that not every app I use is fully optimized for the iMac Pro, some use more resources than others, but apart from this I am absolutely thrilled with the iMac Pro. Every 2 weeks I receive about 1TB of data for multicam edits, and it would take nearly an entire day to create proxy media for those projects; not having to create proxy media means I have 26 more days to work every year now that my computer is free to do other things, which well more than pays for the iMac Pro.
Gabriel Spaulding
Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
Videographer | Video Editor | Motion DesignerHow Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
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Have they fixed the crappy problem with premiere that makes project unwieldy and horribly slow to open, save and add media to when you have more than 5TB of rushes inside?
I’d previously thought of waiting for whatever modular Mac Pro might be coming this year, but experiences like these are making my wallet itch.
Co-owner at Pollen Studio
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[Tom Sefton] “Have they fixed the crappy problem with premiere that makes project unwieldy and horribly slow to open, save and add media to when you have more than 5TB of rushes inside”
Odd. I haven’t run into any issue like that.
Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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“Have they fixed the crappy problem with premiere that makes project unwieldy and horribly slow to open, save and add media to when you have more than 5TB of rushes inside?”
I don’t use Premiere Pro as a regular part of my workflow anymore, so I haven’t experienced that. This is the first I’ve heard of the issue. I would be surprised if those problems were caused by the iMac Pro itself, especially if, as Oliver reported, the problem is not universal.
Gabriel Spaulding
Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
Videographer | Video Editor | Motion DesignerHow Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
http://www.aceenterprizes.com
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