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Grinner Hester
April 7, 2009 at 12:56 amIf you had fun, it was not waisted.
I don’t want to take anything away from a fine education but most can teach at the university level, even with just an AA. They look for “or equal experience” in many cases.
Again, I am in no way against a good education. I just don’t want a whole young generation going and then expecting a gig as a result. You’ll be cold-calling just like the guy who got a 4 year head start on ya in this field.
All that said, my dad had hell gettin me to go to college and that poor guy just could not get me out after that. lol I got one AA, had fun, stayed, got another, met some sweet chicks so I stayed some more, got another, started teaching there… lol
career student. It was fun. It was easy. I was comfy. Had they not booted me out of the nest, I surely would have stayed.
…which is why I call and thank em every now and again.
Fun indeed. Was it required for my career? Sure was at the time, man. There was no place else I could learn how to edit. Is it required today? shooot. Premiere and a DVD burner can hook a brother up with a reel that will get him hired.
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Grinner Hester
April 7, 2009 at 1:04 amOver a dozen interships that didn’t turn into paying jobs? Dude, something aint right.
I went in, painted walls and hung shelves where I had to but made sure it turned into a paying job.
Please don’t look at teachers as connections in the industry, man. I dare say, if they had conections, they’d be working in the industry.
My suggestion is be humble. Expect nothing but don’t settle for it. Get out there and take out the freakin trash if you have to but get your foot in the door at the place you want to be. Work for way too little for much too long, climbing ladders not when you want to but when you have to. You’ll find in this industry, when you get married, you’ll probably have to move onward and upward. With the birth of every child you’ll need a five-figure raise and since those don’t happen, again, you’ll move onward and upward.
I moved my family to five states in as many years at one point just salary climbing and ya know what I was at after a decade and a half of this? My salary was just about where your school debt is. You simply overpaid for an education in a field that won’t support that… anytime soon, anyway. I started like most here… for free. My first real job at a tv station paid 3 bucks and 35 cents an hour. My first salary job paid much less than that at 18k a year and 80 hour work weeks. Money is not a motivator for this field. There are tie-wearing desk jobs for those motivated by moola.
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Stephen Smith
April 7, 2009 at 5:01 pm[Greg] I’m happy for the Taho guy who got all these lucky breaks.
I recommend that you read the Millionaire Mind, you will find the theme of, “The harder I work, the luckier I become.” In this case, “Taho guy” saw opportunities others did not, because he was most likely working harder and smarter then others.
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Grinner Hester
April 7, 2009 at 5:25 pmThe only breaks I have seen in this industry in 20 years are the ones I have given.
I have a friend I wanted to work with so I trained him and handed him a fine career on a silver platter. In 2 decades of this, this is the only circumstance I have even heard of where a career came to a person, not the other way around.
Ya gotta create your own breaks. Being in the facility of your choice doing free work can do that.
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Matt Sepeta
April 7, 2009 at 6:54 pmMillionaire Mind is an excellent read, it has helped me re-evaluate my lifestyle.
Good Day
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Andrew Kimery
April 7, 2009 at 10:25 pm[Stephen Smith] “I recommend that you read the Millionaire Mind, you will find the theme of, “The harder I work, the luckier I become.” In this case, “Taho guy” saw opportunities others did not, because he was most likely working harder and smarter then others. “
While I am a firm believer in making your own luck and knocking on opportunity’s door instead of waiting for opportunity to come knocking on mine, some things are just dumb luck. For example, a few years ago a colleague of mine (“Bob”) was at a video game store chatting w/the clerk and Bob mentioned that he was a video editor for a site that reviewed video games. The guy behind Bob in line then introduced himself because he was working for a large internet company that was interested into branching out into creating video content catering to gamers. Bob and the guy hit it off and a few months down the road Bob started working for him.
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Stephen Smith
April 7, 2009 at 10:35 pmSorry to get side tracked. For any one who would like to read The Millionaire Mind you can download it for free at Audible.com. Go to this other thread in the “Free Stuff” forum for more info. https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/250/173
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Grinner Hester
April 7, 2009 at 10:37 pmThat’s called being the brand and is a crucial part in networking.
Place and time change… be the brand and you are always advertising no matter the environment.
Not great for family picnics but pretty awesome in line at the game store.
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Greg Burke
April 7, 2009 at 11:07 pmYa I had really bad internships mainly because my supervisor hated his job there and therefore hated being there, that was the case most of the time,another internship the company went under while I was working there. another internship promised me I would have a shot at a in house paid position but when it was up told me they like to see people with College Degrees. I’ve had the worst luck in internships and know unfortunately i can’t afford to do free internships I work full time and have school debt to pay off with interest. I really is a crappy experience all together.
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Richard Herd
April 7, 2009 at 11:39 pm[grinner hester] “but most can teach at the university level, even with just an AA.”
That’s categorically false. A fully accredited University requires a PhD as a professor and a Masters as a Lecturer. Some low-level undergraduate courses require a BA and are taught by Teacher Assistants, who are being guided by Tenured Professors and experienced Lecturer/Mentors–while the TA works through the grad program.
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