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HP Dreamcolor vs Flanders Scientific
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The HP Dreamcolor and DSLR’s are in the same RGB colorspace. Connectivity between the two is straight forward.
FSI’s are YUV right? I would imagine they interface with editing systems better than the HP which
you have to jump through hoops. (and have limitations)When using these DSLR’s maintaining sharp focus is critical. Personally 24″ would give me plenty o’ confidence over something smaller.
Shane Halburt is using this system:
https://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/01/09/hp-hewlett-packard/ -
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Would you bring to the field a 10b/Desktop/24″/TFT monitor?
Is 2.500 $$ price for a “confidence monitor”?for a shoot being done on a canon DSLR? yes sir. higher end camera? probably not.
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Shawn,
The HDMI out of the DSLRs is YUV. Same that the video files that write in memory (H264 is 8b YUV/420).
But the problem is not that; the problem is that the HDMI, on RECORDING, put out a non standard signal for pure “confidence”. That signal is so bad, that people don’t bother on recording it (no standard size, no color accurate, ..).
Sorry but I’m still think that to use a very expensive DESKTOP monitor designed for CRITIC GRAPHICS COLOR 10b/RGB) on a crappy video signal JUST TO FOCUS is bit too much.
As I said, even a FSI it doesn’t make sense for this purpose. I
f you have to control Color and Video Levels on a Full Standard Video signal, would make sense.
For what s Regian intends to do, I wouldn’t spend more than 5 or 600 bucks.
BTW, a “field monitor” should work with BATTERIES. That’s part of the concept.
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Can you explain more about….”the HDMI, on RECORDING, put out a non standard signal for pure “confidence””
Of course the monitor isn’t ONLY for FOCUS, but exposure, color levels etc.
Sometimes easier to see on a larger monitor.+1 on the battery situation if your looking for something more mobile.
Like with anything, there are many ways to go about doing things.
Here is a great example of the DreamColor being used in many different production configs-
https://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/08/11/canon-5d-mk-ii-the-video-village-challenge/ -
[Shawn Bann] “Can you explain more about….”the HDMI, on RECORDING, put out a non standard signal for pure “confidence”””
Hi Shawn,
The manufacturers have downgraded the Video OUT of all the DSLR cameras to avoid cameras putting out a full quality/size HD signal that could be recorder on any external device like a NANO-Flash, KI-Pro or similar.
If I’m not wrong, cameras put out Full HD when on Stand-by, but with all the superimposed info.
When you start to record, all the overlaying info disappear, but the signal is not the same any more.
Normally putout a downsized picture (1440×1080?) good enough for reference and focus.The reason is simple: any DSLRS with such device attached, would yield higher quality than most high end video cameras. That would be a ruin for them because they would stop selling their video cameras.
This is has been the big frustration of HDDSLR users, and breaking this is the “Golden Dream” of DSLR hackers since those cameras appeared.
In the DSLR Forum you will find more precise info (https://forums.creativecow.net/dslr)
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[Rafael Amador] “BTW, a “field monitor” should work with BATTERIES. That’s part of the concept.”
BTW, FSI monitors run on standard batteries in the field. (Anton Bauer, Frezzi, etc…) That’s part of the concept.
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[walter biscardi] “BTW, FSI monitors run on standard batteries in the field. (Anton Bauer, Frezzi, etc…) That’s part of the concept.”
I know Walter. Is the Field Monitor I would buy If I could afford it.
But you wouldn’t risk your beautiful FSI on the field just for focus, would you?
I think there are more reasonable options.
rafael -
Shawn Bann: “The HP Dreamcolor and DSLR’s are in the same RGB colorspace.”
Where are you getting that info from?
I really like the Dreamcolor, but it’s a bit fragile for field work, doesn’t have stuff like inbuilt scopes and will only display colours accurately if fed a progressive RGB signal.
So it’s not the right display for these circumstances.
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Rafeal corrected me on that:
“The HDMI out of the DSLRs is YUV. Same that the video files that write in memory (H264 is 8b YUV/420).”Here is where I was reading about the HP in the field:
https://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2010/08/11/canon-5d-mk-ii-the-video-village-challenge/
https://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2011/01/09/hp-hewlett-packard/+1 on the scopes
I suppose thats where the FSI would have another advantage.
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Well we take a Flanders lm 2461w on set and we are not millionaires. So a dream color at half the price would be a great option if you don’t care if its calibrated right.
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