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  • Michael Phillips

    September 11, 2013 at 11:38 am
  • Herb Sevush

    September 11, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “only offering a single port is not especially impressive.”

    Is there any reason to believe that you couldn’t use more cards if you needed more ports? Also under what configuration would you need more than 1 daisychaining Tblt port if you also have multiple PCIe slots available?

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  • Michael Phillips

    September 11, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Agreed – as many folks will add PICe cages to their Mac to support more slots… in this scenario, the slots are already available. So it’s a balance of the two. For those who want to go thunderbolt all the way they can do one way, and those who want another, can go their’s.

    Michael

  • Herb Sevush

    September 11, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    [Michael Phillips] “as many folks will add PICe cages to their Mac to support more slots”

    Difference being that adding PCIe through expansion does not give you any 16 lane possibilities, limiting your use of additional GPUs.

    Herb Sevush
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  • Santiago Martí

    September 11, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    It doesn’t take a genius to guess price considering components in a fully loaded system. 12 core xeon? Flash HDD? Two ultra expensive Ati GPUs? 128 GB of ram in only 4 memory slots? Do the math, it will be really expensive.

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  • Chris Kenny

    September 11, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Is there any reason to believe that you couldn’t use more cards if you needed more ports? Also under what configuration would you need more than 1 daisychaining Tblt port if you also have multiple PCIe slots available?”

    I’d assume each card will need to have DisplayPort looped into it, which might get annoying with multiple cards. Unless Intel has dropped the ‘all Thunderbolt ports must carry video’ requirement as well, or there’s some other scheme to get video on these ports.

    As for why you’d want more than one port… there are enough Thunderbolt devices out there that don’t have a passthrough port that just having a single port will be a bit annoying on a workstation. This includes a bunch of stuff that the presence of PCIe slots doesn’t really reduce the need for, like external drives.


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  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Don’t forget Asus introduced a Tbolt 2 Electric Bugaloo motherboard, as well.

    https://www.asus.com/News/22a1IgaOOVSdTMoM

  • Eric Michael cap

    September 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Just had a conversation with Dave Helmly about this, and while the PCIe Thunderbolt card does feature Displayport IN as per Intel’s Thunderbolt specs, it’s not required to be connected – unless you want the video looped through.

  • Chris Kenny

    September 11, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    [Eric Michael Cap] “Just had a conversation with Dave Helmly about this, and while the PCIe Thunderbolt card does feature Displayport IN as per Intel’s Thunderbolt specs, it’s not required to be connected – unless you want the video looped through.”

    Interesting. Didn’t Intel decline to certify an ASUS motherboard that tried to satisfy the video requirement with a DisplayPort input last year? I wonder if they’re opening up with this in general, or if they’ve got some special arrangement with HP. And I wonder how HP is handling the cabling here. Just externally, with a cable looping up from the graphics card to the Thunderbolt card? Or are they doing something more interesting, like OEM GPUs with internal DP connectors?


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