How To Sync Multiple Timelines in Premiere Pro CS4?

[Richard Christy]

Actually, I found it. Its’ just CTRL+Arrow

[Richard Christy]

Well, I know I’ve tripled posted at this point, but I found a flaw in this setup.

I can jump between the markers using CTRL+Arrow as long as I’m in the Sequence in which I added them (Sequence One). However, once you open Sequence Two, you can see the markers from Sequence One, but the keyboard command no longer jumps to these points.

I’m finding Premiere to be a real pain in the ass in this regard as this was basic functionality present in AE, and Premiere seems to be really dropping the ball on this one.

[Alex Udell]

Yep…

you are correct, PPro does use different keyboard shortcuts to navigate between Clip Keyframes vs. Sequence Keyframes.

Alex

[Richard Christy]

So, just so I’m understanding you, does this mean there is a different keyboard shortcut I need to use to jump to the markers in Sequence Two or am I just SOL in that regard?

Also, I’ve verified that the Shift+T command does exactly what I’m looking for, but in the opposite direction. Any chance there is a similar shortcut that will go the other way? Think Left To Right, as opposed to Right to Left which is what it does now.

[Alex Udell]

Yes, I believe, there is a separate keyboard shortcut for navigating Sequence markers. I’ll look at it when I get to work.

I think

The problem with trying to “go the opposite direction” with a Shift+T command is that….

One Sequence can be used in an infinite number of other sequences. Even if you were to limit it to looking only OPEN sequences….it’s still possible to reference more than one usage. So it could be problematic for PPro to know what parent you were looking for.

Could you somehow use the “Gang” function to help you? I’ll look at that when I get to work as well.

Alex

[Richard Christy]

Thanks! I await your reply…

[Alex Udell]

A) These are the marked cut points INSIDE the nested Sequence
B) These are the timeline markers on the main timeline
C) This is the nest Clip selected

With these conditions…
(and adjusting Mac to Windows Shortcuts)

If you press COMMAND+SHIFT+ARROWS – this will navigate you to the next marker within the selected clip (A)

If you press COMMAND+ARROWS this will navigate you to the next Sequence Marker (B)

I’ll assume that CONTROL is the Windows equivalent to COMMAND.

But the shortcuts should be listed under the Menu>Marker>Clip or Menu>Marker>Sequence

Does that help?

Alex

[Richard Christy]

Again, tremendous thanks for all the work. Really appreciated.

Two questions:

1) Why do the marked cut points from the nested Sequence (“A” in the above image) appear to be at different points in the timeline than the “timeline markers” of Sequence Two (“B” in the above image)? Theoretically wouldn’t they need to be at the exact same points in time of both Sequences in order to sync those points across both of the timelines?

2) Also, where did the markers in Sequence Two come from? Did you add those manually after you added the Markers at the cut points in the Sequence One timeline?

[Alex Udell]

OK. Sorry for the confusion. Yes I just added some random markers to Seq 02 in order to help reinforce the point that PPro uses different keys for Navigating between clip markers and sequence markers.

So…no you don’t have to add the sequecne markers in SEQ 2.

If you simply select your nest clip, then you can use CMD + SHIFT + Arrows to navigate.

I think the thing that is throwing you is that when you step into the nested sequence…

those markers you saw as “clip markers” in SEQ 2 are “Sequence Markers” in SEQ 1.

So when you step into Sequence you’d have to use different keyboard shortcuts to navigate.

You just have to remember that they are different shortcuts….

Alex

[Richard Christy]

Now we’re rockin’ and rollin’ brotha!

I just recreated your setup above and tried the method you described. At first it didn’t work and I thought it was a lost cause, but with a little tinkering, I AM ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IT!

Granted, I do have to do an additional step in Premiere that would automatically have been done for me in AE (IE: having to add the Markers at the cut points of the Parent Sequence to give me a point of reference for Sequence Two) but I’m just glad it’s working.

It’s two things that threw me. As you said, having to use a different keyboard shortcut for essentially the exact same thing can be a bit confusing to someone who isn’t aware of the difference (image hitting “C” for the cutting tool in one timeline and CTRL+C for the same cutting tool in another).

Also, the biggest thing that threw me was selecting the nested clip for it to work. In Sequence One, it’s enough that your in the timeline for the CTRL+Arrow to jump to the markers you need. You don’t have to have anything selected. But in Sequence Two, even with the new keyboard shortcut, you STILL have to go one beyond and select the clip first. Again, confusing if your not familiar with why it’s not working the same across both timelines.

But, it seems that this is as close as we will possibly get to an AE style of syncing the timecode across multiple Sequences.

Gotta give everyone a big thanks, especially Alex Udell…somebody give him a raise!

Thanks again!