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How to import P2 Metadata into Final Cut Pro 6
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Well, if you use HD Log, the files get wrapped to Quicktime”
Ahhh…but I guess not many people, including you, know that you DON’T have to do that. In fact, HDLog makes alias’ much like Raylight does, tying audio and video to one file, and then you can use those alias’ to make an XML that will then map all of the metadata to columns in FCP. ZERO transcode time. Looks like I need to make a mini tutorial for this. It is very slick.
And with HD Log you get the offloading capabilities, ability to ADD metadata to the clips and reformat the cards…and name them. All this for as much…or less…than MXF4QT.
[Jeremy Garchow] “if you use HD Log, you jsut have to wait for the trasncoding process.”
Nope, you don’t. OK, do I have time tonight to do a tutorial? I’d love to do it right now…lemme see…
Shane
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[Shane Ross] “HDLog makes alias’ much like Raylight does”
Ah, I didn’t know that. It thought it was an XML to Quicktime deal. Thanks for letting me know.
Now, once you take that offline (say you archive the project) what happens to those aliasses? Or is that aliai. I don’t know the plural for alias. Do those come back online as well?
I will say the offloading/formatting capabilities are nice, but I have Shotput P2 which was $49.99 which was probably torn off of HD Log.
According the mxf4mac website, they are also working on a comprehensive logging and metadata editor called P2 Flow, but that’s not out yet.
Metadata also gets passed to an FCP XML with MXF4Mac as well and there are no reference files, it is simply using the MXF data natively, not unlike Avid.
Jeremy
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Shane, please check page 13 and following. I documented the reference movie thing years ago before they became real features.
https://www.aulich-adamski.de/wp-content/Panasonic_P2_Mac.pdf
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As far as I know it’s not an alias but a reference movie which is created.
From my experience it’s not such a good thing to work with referenced movies, as if you move or copy (copy will create a new id) any of the sources to another disk the reference is gone – but many people like to work with those referenced files and it does work fine as long you keep everything intact..
The real good deal for me/us is that mxf4mac allows us do work directly with the files. This way we can sync the files with external audio in a very flexible way.Maybe I’ll find the time over the weekend to show how we do it.
Andreas
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I just created a movie of a workflow how it happens here. Everything is based upon my experience about Final Cut Pro XML and BWAV files.
The movie is a real real time capture made on my old G5 using a slow USB drive as source for both video and audio. The G5 runs some processes in the background.I used the mxf4mac component to handle the mxf files, their metadata, the external BWAV audio is handled by my app reading iXML info, read these metadata and family stuff to keep mono audio channels connected.
The app uses the audio files to find out which mxf will fit “tc-wise” to the P2 XML clips
The count of P2 video files are around 70, the external audio is either 3 or 5 channels (lets say average 4) per video clip.
As you see in the movie it takes about 2 minutes to get all this stuff into Final Cut Pro – imagine you got a Intel (3G 8 Core or higher).
As said earlier. I do see the future there with the mxf4mac guys – and to be honest they love my apps too.Maybe Björn will post something about the CM which comes with the component
Andreas
Movie: movie
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Just to be clear, HD Log has the choice to export either ‘self contained’ movies or the ‘reference files’ when creating FCP XML outputs.
You don’t have to save the ‘Alias Log’ files first (but you can if you want). This option was added to let folks save logs with pointers only to build small indices to their media (whether it’s online or offline).
Opening a P2 volume and exporting to FCP just the reference files is pretty darn fast, especially after you’ve setup the metadata field mapping which you only have to do once.
On another note, ShotPut was developed separately from HDLog and started as a simple offloader for Sony EX-1 cards only. It was later expanded to include other cards and file types and much effort was put into it to make the copy procedure faster than anything else on the market.
ShotPut especially shines when you’re making multiple copies of the same card, or copying more than one card at a time. Yes, I just said you can hook up a 5-card P2 reader and copy all 5 cards to 3 locations (15 total destinations) all at the same time. Or, you can hook up *many* P2 cards, HDDs, FireStore and a P2Store and copy them all at once. On the Mac, the only limit is 16 maximum ‘mounted’ drives.
The new ShotPut Pro offers any file types in one application (P2, AVCHD, RED, SxS). It can also copy *any* media or HDD. And it has the ability to launch your DVD/Blu-ray burn application when finished.
Video logging is just the beginning…
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dear experts. i read your discussion about p2-workflow but it still doesn´t seem to solve my problem. maybe some of you can help me.
i also have the problem of not being able to import the meta data, espeacially the user file name to fcp.
i tested some of the other programms you recommanded but:
i need to end up with quicktime-files that have the user-file-name, because the editors take the disk with the stuff with them and then transfer it to the cutters disk. so – if i use raylight for example – it seems not to possible to re-connect the qt-reference-file with the original file easily after moving them.and with p2 log pro the editor won´t be able to watch the files without importing it into final cut, at least not the files with the user-file-name…and since they must select their stuff (by watching it with an ordinary player) befor they go to the cutter, i don´t see a way to organize that without ending in chaos.
i hope this is understandable, my english is not the best. sorry.another possibility would be if it was possible to automatically name the clips in fcp- log&transfer.
i just need to name them “name_001” to “name_100” which i now do with endless copy-paste-sessions in the evenings.i´d really be happy if someone has an idea – i mean that´s what machines have been invented for, right, to do such stupid kind of work.
thanks, annette
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Annette,
P2 Flow CM that is included with our MXF importer provides the metadata mapping you demand. However each editing station would require the software since it accesses the native MXF files without referencing or converting to MOV. What you could do is to fire all P2 clips over to FCP with the User Clip Name set to be the Clip Name (an option within P2 Flow CM) and then export the files from FCP to MOV for none MXF aware editing stations.
Please note that P2 Flow CM is not included in the free demo version. Please get in touch with us when you want to receive a test license: https://mxf4mac.com/contact
Thanks
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Annette, don’t feel bad. P2 is a complicated workflow and it takes a few times through it to feel comfortable. Now, if I understand you correctly, here is what I would do:
• Buy HDLog Bronze
• Import your P2 into HDLog.
• Select Export and…
• Select “Final Cut Pro XML” and set as “self contained movies”
– this will take a while to transcode, but because you are handing the footage to a number of people, it will be safer.• Before hitting the Export button, check the fields to be sure your metadata is going into the FCP field you want it in.
• Be sure to set “Name Quicktime Movie as” to “User Clip Name”
• NOW hit Export.I have included a photo so this will be more clear.
Chad Greene Mahoney Media Group Minneapolis, Minnesota 2x3GHz Quad-Core, 4GB Ram, OS 10.4 FCP 6, Kona-LH
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