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  • Craig Seeman

    February 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Push poll for sure.

    That one has Source / Record (I like old English) in multicam probably means it can/will be implemented in context. I don’t want an “always on” Source / Record. A Gang feature, as one sees in multicam, would be useful. The Two Up, which happens when trimming with the mouse, should also be there when trimming with the keyboard. There are certainly times when I’d like to look at the In/Out of one clip when hunting for its compliment. To call it contextually would be more elegant than always on Source / Record. so D) None of the Above.

  • Herb Sevush

    February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “To call it contextually would be more elegant than always on Source / Record”

    How about letting the editor decide the context instead of the programmer? Why not a simple option to have a source viewer at the editor’s discretion; whenever, whyever?

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Tony West

    February 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I’m not saying you should be forced to give up your screen real estate, but it should be up to the editor “

    OK, I agree. Let the editor decide.

  • Michael Garber

    February 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    B – definitely for the viewer.

    Regarding tracks, I’ve been thinking about this a lot. One idea I had is something similar to the way Google acquiesced with nested tags in Gmail. They ended up making tags work in a folder-less paradigm. They can look like folders, but they’re not.

    So, same idea for FCPX. Assuming all your audio is properly tagged with it’s role assignment, there could be a way to organize all the media in your timeline based on it’s “tag” or role. So, all the music would appear to be on tracks 6-10, but in reality it’s just the program showing it to you in a clear and concise way. You could also drag a clip into the lane “bucket” and it would get assigned the role you’ve assigned that area.

    My problem with the timeline right now, is that it’s very confusing – even if you know what’s going on. You have to keep switching clip height modes and when clips are compressed, you can’t see if you’ve made a j-cut or an L-cut. It’s just not intuitive in that regard.

    I just wish that I could easily see and work with multi-channel audio in the timeline without having to detach and open in timeline, etc… To me that’s counter-productive. I just want to be able to quickly make a channel L or R, louder or softer – and do it all in the timeline. Anyone have any tips on a better workflow for that? I hate detaching for fear of audio going out of sync and not having sync markers.

  • Lance Bachelder

    February 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Jeesh Tony – might wan a consider running for office or something – I’m convinced – A!

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Tony West

    February 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “might wan a consider running for office or something”

    hehehe : )

  • Rafael Amador

    February 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Are you assuming that just because Apple doesn’t have a key feature now means they wont’ incorporate it later because a third party fills the role at the moment?”
    Craig,
    We’ve been waiting 10 years for a decent de-intelacer in FC, 10 years for a decent built in up/downscaling option. FCP has gone to the grave with lots of transitions and effects still working in 8b RGB.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Richard Herd

    February 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    [Michael Garber] “My problem with the timeline right now, is that it’s very confusing – even if you know what’s going on. You have to keep switching clip height modes and when clips are compressed, you can’t see if you’ve made a j-cut or an L-cut. It’s just not intuitive in that regard.”

    Are you talking about X?

    I find it extremely simple to cut js and ls, and just as easy to see ’em or not using CTRL-S.

  • Michael Garber

    February 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Hi Richard,

    Yes, I was talking about X. I dislike the way that the audio appears in the timeline when clips are collapsed. There’s no visual cue in that mode to let you know of a j or l cut (at least in my experimentation last night).

    In addition, I really want to be able to keyframe multi-track audio in clips in the timeline without having to disassemble the audio from the video. I want to be able to j or l specific audio tracks to different lengths. I know it’s possible now, but you have to perform a few more steps to get there.

    Does anyone know if there’s a keyboard shortcut to panning audio left or right?

    Visually, I just find the new timeline distracting vs. a well-maintained timeline in 7.

  • Richard Herd

    February 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    F) If they add it, I would want to turn it off. The viewer, for me, is moot as long as the skim is available. And actually I use a quasi-viewer from time to time. I choose the option to see the clip in 1/2 second intervals.

    But it could also be possible I didn’t use the viewer efficiently in 7. How did folks use it?

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