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How do I use this camera in HD when I need to record 40h?
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Hi Joe
Could you be more specific about the NLE. How would that work actually. Would it work with FInal cut Pro. What’s the workflow? I haven’t red or heard about that option anywhere else.
Also, I do have the budget for a camera assistant but not for two. Problem is that dubbing time would be very long and someone will have to do it after shooting is finished.By the way: 720p vs 1080p: Does it give you double the shooting time or not?
Also: After some testing I believe that to really be sure you will not loose any footage it might be necessary to dublicate the footage onto two hard drives vs. only one. One harddrive is your master and the other is your backup.Thanks for all the info sharing. At this stage it’s very necessary for all of us I think.
Best
Richard -
You would use a Powerbook with Final Cut Pro, and output video from the camera via the firewire port. Then capture with FCP, using a PCMCIA Firewire card to connect an external drive to the laptop, and capturing the footage to this drive. I’m not sure if the camera outputs all formats via firewire; I’m still experimenting with this.
Joe Murray
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Hi Richard,
I’m going to shoot in India and Indonesia this early fall and have the same problem. How to manage all the datas with 2P2 and perhaps a firestore. How to be mobile and ligthweight.
What i’m thinking about is:
The new Micro PC from Sony (i’m a pc user) coming this July. A 4.5 inch pc.
An external Blue-ray drive for backup in the night.
I know that there is no FW directly on the micro Pc but on the dock.
I like to be able to put the gears in a ‘tupperware” against moisture, and in my pocket if i need to unload the P2 during shooting.
I know, it’s a weird solution, and need to be test. But i think that if the computer make the backup on a protect optical drive, verify the data and shutdown after, it allow us a few more time to sleep…
Looks like a kind of XDCam HD?
My 2 cents
Robert
sabran.com
PS i really liked the devil miner when it was broadcasting on ARTE TV. -
Hi again
The FCP option doesn’t work as you can’t capture in real time as you are recording. FCP only allows you to capture already recorded footage. You can’t just loop it through and record at the same time. At least that’s the experience I have. Any comments on that?
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Thanks, Devil’s Miner is one of my best films for sure. No I am prepping the next one…
Anyway your option also sounds quite complex and not too practical for me.
I have just attended a HD Symposium in Munich and none of the experts had a good solution for the problem. In the end the only option ist to take P2 cards plus firestore drives and when they are full find time to dump your footage to additional external drives. The risk of total loss of footage in case of disk failure is a reality and everybody has to evaluate if he wants to take this risk or go HDV and Canon or Z1 with tapes.
I am not sure yet what to do.
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Richard…
As I’m planning my own workflow for the occasional extended assignment, I’m considering the possibility of duplicating the material acquired onto a mirrored RAID with hot-swappable drives.
It would most likely be 250-gig drives as they’re the most cost-effective. If not, then whatever SATA drive that provides the most storgae for the dollar.
As each RAID gets full, drives are seperated into two different cases for transport to ensure that at least one set of drives are safe. In one sense it’s more secure than tapes since tapes are seldom, if ever, backed up in the field.
Not sure if I would be recording onto P2 cards and transferring onto a P2 Store, or if I’ll end up using a Firestore. Most likely a Firestore for the sake of capacity.
That documentary trailer of yours is absolutely impressive. I’m hoping to do work on par with that — although it most likely will not quite that somber.
Dean Sensui — http://www.HawaiiGoesFishing.com
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Richard,
Using the “capture now” function of FCP, you can capture live to hard drives, and FCP will pull out the redundant frames as well, leaving you with 24p or 25p footage. -
[doccutter] “Using the “capture now” function of FCP, you can capture live to hard drives, and FCP will pull out the redundant frames as well, leaving you with 24p or 25p footage.”
Careful on that.
FCP cannot always properly remove the pulldown when using “Capture Now”
While it may see the first frame of the capture as the “0” or “5” frame that need to be removed- when you get to the Out Point FCP has no way to calculate how or where that closing frame of the cadence should be, if that is the case then FCP cannot produce an end of the pulldown removal – it is common for FCP in this situation to leaves the clip at 59.94 rather than the 23.98 one expects.this is not possible at all with 25p footage as the 720p25 EU specification is not currently implemented in Final Cut.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL
gary@studio37.com
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