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[Lance Bachelder] “Simply not true! I know plenty of VERY high end feature film Editors who make HUGE money and are completely technically ignorant!”
Of course, but that wasn’t the question Lance.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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its funny seeing some of the replies in here
have any of you actually tried to convert frame rates with difficult footage in FCPx
it does a very good job in my opinion and I have been testing against conversions made through different settings in compressor (frame controls turned on and frame rate conversion set to best or better)
Just to let you know this was tested on a grade 1 HD sony monitor
I would put a bet its the same engine as best(the second from best option whatever its called) in compressorthe scaling down of graphics is superb and really does put fcp7 and avid to shame, no aliasing. In fact the rendering of stills with lots of resolution is surprisingly good more like after effects and renders very quickly in my opinion.
the scaling up of content wasnt perfect to be honest I would still say a conversion using hardware e.g. Kona 3 card is noticeably better
the color space conversions and reading/interpreting of gammas in RGB video has been spot on, looking on tektronix scopes for that one, if there were issues these had been introduced in compressed RGB formats like h264 on export (from the old FCP7) rather than import.
I would actually say that the choices FCPx makes when it helps get formats together in an open timeline are better than I expected and something I can trust to give excellent quality in most cases, there are of course times when an Alchemist has its uses.
and lastly as long as you dont go need the crop image controls when using the spatial conform tools set to stretch you can rely on the aspect ratios getting read properly or being a hell of a lot easier to fix (did notice some black edge oddness with HDV footage in a SD anamorphic sequence when set to fit but fixed easily by setting squeeze)
sorry if all the terms used here werent exactly those used in software (i am writing this on a PC and the macs in the other room)
the fact that there are so many plugins for specialised outputs from compressor makes the whole system a lot like the PDF example given in these commments, just think 7 years ago if someone said you can make a DCP from final cut pro for less than £1000 for the software licence you wouldnt have believed them
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[Ben Scott] “just think 7 years ago if someone said you can make a DCP from final cut pro for less than £1000 for the software licence you wouldnt have believed them”
Ben,
Would you honestly trust even the most “artistic” newbie to finish and output a DCP of your important film/video using FCPX because you believe the software allows technically seamless and automated finishing? That’s what your argument appears to be…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[Mark Dobson] ” Now I personally don’t use any of the auto functions in FCPX but others clearly like to.”
But what happens when the auto-analysis fails? They have to work around it and do it themselves. That’s where the knowledgeable editor is necessary, in order to accomplish the task by using his/her baggage.
[Mark Dobson] ” However I do drive a car with an automatic gearbox and it’s really not necessary for me to know how that works.”
If you were a cab driver, then you probably would be better off knowing the inner workings of your income tool.
[Mark Dobson] ”
What I enjoy about the Creative Cow forums is the huge generosity that people have in sharing their knowledge.
What I don’t enjoy are the negative ping-pong matches that do nothing to educate or inspire other participants.”Although this is a valid point in general, I would argue that those ping-pongs are essential in a debating forum, like this one for that matter. It constitutes the essence of the whole thing, hence the existence of a techniques forum as opposed to this one.
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[Rafael Amador] “What I extracted from Carsten post is that is more important to do it easier than to get it better.”
Maybe he wants both. Maybe he wants a better looking product but an easier way to get there.
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[tony west] “Maybe he wants both. Maybe he wants a better looking product but an easier way to get there.”
Of course, that’s the goal Tony, but does X really deliver that? More importantly, will it ever be able to deliver that?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Of course, that’s the goal Tony, but does X really deliver that? More importantly, will it ever be able to deliver that?”
It does already for some of us.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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I don’t know David.
I think it’s going to be a different answer for many people.
I don’t think that X is going to stay where it is though. They are going to keep adding to it.
What’s ironic is I’m on a mac in the first place because they made the computer more user friendly.
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I don’t get the blow back about things being easier. What is wrong with more easy?
If you choose to suffer, go edit tape to tape, or get all of your video transferred to film and edit on a flatbed and conform back to video.
I am not saying we need to lose quality, but I am OK with more easy.
My clients hire us for quality, it’s implied, but yet they throw more and more stuff on us. If software can quickly get me through more of the duties and maintain quality, I have zero issues with that.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “What is wrong with more easy?”
Nothing.
Is this discussion about “more easy” or is it about the need for today’s editors to have some level of technical ability.
Having a menu choice or a button that says ‘send to Youtube’ is easy. Great for all. But what happens when the destination isn’t Youtube? Suppose the client says, “We’re using Ooyala for web content delivery, when you’re finished with the edit please upload it to Ooyala”. I’m guessing the “artist” will claw from menu to menu desperately searching for the ‘send to Ooyala’ command. No such luck. Frustrated the artist manages to call support. Support says ‘send to Ooyala’ may be included in the next software release – second quarter 2012.
The editor with a modicum of technical ability could figure our how to encode to the required specs. and be finished in time for lunch.
Easy is fine and well. However it won’t carry you as far as technical knowledge will.
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