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HEY APPLE: FCPX scores an F for audio handling…
David Battistella replied 11 years, 12 months ago 5 Members · 40 Replies
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David Battistella
September 9, 2014 at 2:59 pmNothing wrong with the editing and functionality within the software. Would not trade that for fcp 7 at all.
Big problems when wanting to move audio outside the software. This is no problem for picture with resolve, but an apple fcpxxml does not even open properly in logic X.
Thus, my, this sucks logic.Wouldn’t it make sense to open up your fcpx XML in logic x without a hiccough and mix away on your track?
Where’s the rocket science here?
It’s been at least a year since logic x. Where’s the integration within apples own software?
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Oliver Peters
September 9, 2014 at 3:12 pmDavid,
I’ve had all sorts of audio hand-off issues with X as witnessed by a few threads in the other forum. I’m not sure about .r3d audio specifically, as most of my RED shoots have been double-system. I do find that the FCPXML hand-off to Logic X works and so does the AAF from X2Pro into Logic X. One of those (I forget which) strips off the levels, too.
But – and this is a huge but – to get the last project to work correctly, I had to detach the audio and then for each connected audio clip, use the “break items apart” command.
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Robin S. kurz
September 9, 2014 at 3:13 pm[David Battistella] “Wouldn’t it make sense to open up your fcpx XML in logic x without a hiccough and mix away you track?”
It has MUCH improved with the most recent versions. And no, it’s not perfect. But FCPXML is a work in progress. It’s also a far superior exchange format, even if it doesn’t seem so right off the bat. Outdated formats such as EDL or AAF are (and will stay) incapable of e.g. retaining (as in: *editable*) color correction information from FCP to Resolve or any and all audio filters/effects that you apply in FCP to LPX, Both of which already work. For ME having that makes putting up with having to shift some tracks around in LPX for a bit longer quite tolerable. You may not. At least I know, as opposed to nonsense such as EDL, that things can, will and are improving over time. That’s what the feedback pages are for, too, btw.
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David Battistella
September 9, 2014 at 3:28 pmI did break apart all the audio.
You should see the garbled mess the fcpx XML is for a simple 30 minute film with just a music, effects dialogs, etc. it’s disastrous. The RELINKING in logic is poor and asks for clip locations practically on a clip by clip basis.
This is single system too. I doubt it would be this much trouble with a qt file. I think the problem resides in extracting the wav portion of the r3d file.I’ve resorted to roles, which in this day and age, with modern software. Sucks. It’s unacceptable.
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David Battistella
September 9, 2014 at 3:30 pmRobin.
Do you think I am some kind of rookie on here?
I’ve used feedback on this multiple times, through multiple films. I’m very much a glass half full kind of person.
This portion of fcpx sucks balls.
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Oliver Peters
September 9, 2014 at 3:34 pm[David Battistella] “You should see the garbled mess the fcpx XML is for a simple 30 minute film with just a music, effects dialogs, etc. it’s disastrous.”
Yes, I can imagine. The only other option would be to use Xto7 to bring it into FCP 7 and – if it’s correct there – export an OMF. At least in 7, you can check the accuracy and rearrange tracks if needed.
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David Battistella
September 9, 2014 at 3:37 pmI’ve done that route before. Counterintuitive. In the first six months, I’m like, “hey, this’ll get fixed”. Now I’m like, “meh, they don’t really care about this stuff.”
Going into EOL software as a workflow solution makes me want to put a revolver to my temple.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 9, 2014 at 4:18 pmAnother good way to zero all audio is to adjust to “absolute” volume.
The default keyboard shortcut is option-control-l (relative volume is control-l).
So, select all, option control l, type in a dB value, and hit enter.
X does need a “remove attributes” option.
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Robin S. kurz
September 9, 2014 at 4:26 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “X does need a “remove attributes” option.”
Yeah. Put the request in a long time ago… along with Paste Attributes. So hey, at least they’re listening to me (and only me of course, you can thank me later) and half of what I say. ;-P
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David Battistella
September 9, 2014 at 10:09 pmTo remove attributes is quite simple. Select a single clip with normalize attributes, no cc, no volumes, no effects or whatever.
Copy the attributes of that clip. Select all the other clips, paste all attributes. Done.
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