Here’s what I want:

[Dominic Deacon]

Never tried Vegas but it’s on the list. The only holding me back is if you click over to the Vegas Cow forum there’s dozxens of posts about stability issues. I’ve kind of got used to never having to worry about crashing.

[Dominic Deacon]

FCP7 has multiple source windows if you want to work that way

How do you set that up? Four years I used that software and never came across the function.

But I’m not sure what you mean about FCP7 and Avid not having it at all.

You can ripple delete and ripple insert in FCP but as far as I’m aware you can’t just set the timeline to ripple mode and forget about it. Can it be done?

FCPX has the best NLE titler out there in my opinion, so I don’t get why you think no NLE has anything to offer there. And if you spend the $50 for Motion 5, you get even more flexibility with it.

I love Motion. It’s definitely the thing I miss most about macs. I haven’t used the FCX titler but constantly surprised by how poor they are in other programs.

well, video can only be seen one track at a time. Audio (as in DAWs) can be layered to be heard simultaneously. The paradigm is different.

The paradigm is different but I don’t see any advantage in overwriting and destroying the original clip. Why not just let it sit under there to be retrieved if necessary? It gets rid of the issue of clip collisions quite nicely.

[Dominic Deacon]

BTW when I talk about wanting Edius performance this is what I am talking about. It just got posted on my facebook timeline today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHXOf8Acsmo

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[Andy Neil]

[Dominic Deacon] “How do you set that (multiple source windows) up? Four years I used that software and never came across the function. “

Select a clip in the browser and select Open in New Viewer. Then you can have a clip in the main source viewer, and other clips in independent viewers to edit into the timeline. As long as you have the screen real estate for it, you can do it.

[Dominic Deacon] “You can ripple delete and ripple insert in FCP but as far as I’m aware you can’t just set the timeline to ripple mode and forget about it. Can it be done?”

I don’t understand what you mean by a ripple mode. All NLEs have the capacity to insert and ripple delete clips in the timeline. They also all have the simultaneous ability to overwrite and delete leaving a gap. Can you explain how one would use a “ripple mode”?

[Dominic Deacon] “The paradigm is different but I don’t see any advantage in overwriting and destroying the original clip. Why not just let it sit under there to be retrieved if necessary? It gets rid of the issue of clip collisions quite nicely.”

Well, there’s a lot of things to take into consideration. For example, what do you do when two clips overlapping have different frame sizes and/or frame rates. Does the size of one bleed into the size of another? How do you determine which side overwrites the other? What about composites or blend modes applied to clips? What if you don’t want the clip on V3 to overwrite the clip on the other side of the edit? What if you lay over 5-6 or 7 clips on the same piece of timeline? When you delete the top clip, does it show the one below? What if you want a gap there? Do you have to select and delete the same section 7 times to get rid of all the clips you put in that spot? In addition, if you have the computer keeping track of all those clips beneath all those other clips, that’s going to be a very bloated database in any project over 20 minutes.

Andy

https://www.timesavertutorials.com

[Alban Egger]

Yep, looks like Edius and the astonishing is: it was like that already in 2007 with 720p editing like butter on a duo-core.

Fcpx on a 2011 Macbook pretty much does this in 1080 as well. So Edius is not alone on the moving-playhead-front anymore.

[Tero Ahlfors]

[Dominic Deacon] “BTW when I talk about wanting Edius performance this is what I am talking about”

So… Have you tried Premiere with a decent GPU? I stacked 15 layers of full HD video with effects and it ran in realtime. You can also tweak the effects in realtime.

[Bret Williams]

Yes. Or just go to the apple page https://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/whats-new/

But that’s not the same thing as multiple source windows. Since they already call the project window a viewer, and it serves dual purpose as event and project viewer, I’d assume dual (meaning two) means there will now be a source viewer. Not the same as multiple source viewers.

[Bret Williams]

“FCP can gargle by balls” – Was that part of the Edius campaign? I don’t remember that.

Overall, it pretty much looks like FCP X in power and performance. Not sure about that 16 layers thing. They were all the same clip.