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  • Tim Wilson

    December 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    This reminds me of PT Barnum’s famous quote, “There’s a sucker born every minute “ — which he never said. It was said ABOUT him by a competitor, to the effect that only a sucker could take Barnum seriously, and there must be a ton of suckers for Barnum to be so successful.

    More successful than the competitor of course, because HIS name I don’t remember….

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  • Steven Bradford

    December 2, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Well– There is also another classic: “History is Bunk.”

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  • Chris Harlan

    December 2, 2012 at 1:10 am

    [Steven Bradford] “Well– There is also another classic: “History is Bunk.””

    Indeed. That one he apparently did say. I couldn’t follow your link, but I found this one interesting enough: https://www.science20.com/chatter_box/henry_ford_quote_history_bunk-79505

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 2, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Phillip H. and Jeremy G. gave excellent reasons to think PIOPs couldn’t happen (because there is more than one entry point to the same piece of media, raising both database and UI issues), and I bought into it. Obviously, I was wrong.”

    Just to clarify, if you look closely, I said many times that it would technically be possible to add something like PIOPs.

    What I was arguing was that they wouldn’t work very well and introduce more problems than we needed.

    Apple surprised me with adding multiple ranges in to that mix.

    The result of the PIOPs were as expected, when you use FCPX’s tagging structure dynamically PIOPs can be a decently sized hindrance.

    I will admit that I do like the multiple ranges feature, though. It’s useful.

    I also have to agree the Apple should stop trying to retrofit older metaphors on to the clearly newer methods employed in X. They should further refine, not appease. Make it better, not worse.

  • Andrew Kimery

    December 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    [Bill Davis] “I don’t think they EVER actually thought in terms of Primary and Secondary users except in the sense that they needed to bring primary functions on line before they tweaked the important but less critical elements that appeal to smaller segments of the market. Witness basic audio capabilities in V1 – verses Roles coming along later.”

    You have to have a demographic in mind first before you can even start building the program and I think we can all agree that FCPX is aiming at a broader demographic than FCP Legend, Avid MC or Adobe PPro.

  • Walter Soyka

    December 3, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Just to clarify, if you look closely, I said many times that it would technically be possible to add something like PIOPs. What I was arguing was that they wouldn’t work very well and introduce more problems than we needed. “

    Sorry, Jeremy, I wasn’t trying to imply otherwise.

    I don’t believe I ever declared that PIOPs were literally impossible as Richard has claimed, but I did start thinking they were a harder problem to solve well than I had originally thought after you showed me the example of overlapping pointers.

    Of course, I still didn’t foresee the current problem with PIOPs until they were already in the app…

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  • Tom Sefton

    December 3, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Hang on. Man invents first ever car and with it changes the lives of every man, woman and child around the world inexplicably and forever.

    Men and women invent FCPX and it changes a few thousand video editors lives around the world and allows millions more to have a go for £299. FCPX doesn’t deliver anything more than other top NLE available today, does it?

    It’s just not the same.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 3, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    [Tom Sefton] “Hang on. Man invents first ever car and with it changes the lives of every man, woman and child around the world inexplicably and forever.”

    Of course, Ford didn’t invent the first car, either.

    – Oliver

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    Orlando, FL
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  • Oliver Peters

    December 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Although… Since Ford did take others’ ideas and expanded upon their production through the moving assembly line, there is a good analogy between Ford’s creation and Apple’s with FCP X.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • David Lawrence

    December 3, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Of course, I still didn’t foresee the current problem with PIOPs until they were already in the app…”

    This is a completely typical experience in all software development. No matter how good a feature looks on paper, until it’s actually implemented and live tested, there’s no way to truly how it works. That’s why constant user testing and formative evaluation is an essential part of successful software design. Most software companies go thru this process before releasing their products.

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